WW2 Warfare Discussion thread

[regz321]

This is just discussion thread about WW2 Warfare:

Artillery Guns
Tanks
Infantry weapons
etc

Some quick examples can include:

Panzer IV
Panzerfaust
M1911
Thompson
MP40
M4 Sherman

& LOTS MORE, COMPARE ANYTHING FROM ANY NATION  IN WW2

Feel free to argue, compare weapons, or provide information etc.

[pariah]

If this is about real life, i think it should go here:
http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?board=7.0 [nofollow]
Unless that's specifically about Eastern Front, i'm not sure.

Either way, if your topic lacks direction, i don't think it will get very far...

[cephalos]

Can anyone tell me difference between PzIV aufs H and sufs J? I read somewhere that one of them had inefficient turret traversing system.

[regz321]

Yeah it's based on real warfare weapons not anything in games

[Cranialwizard]

I think the topic is too general to get any popularity :/

If it were more specific I'm sure the rest of the community would be happy to chime in.

[pariah]

Well we do already have a question:

Can anyone tell me difference between PzIV aufs H and sufs J? I read somewhere that one of them had inefficient turret traversing system.

I would like to know the answer too.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

As far as I know, Ausf. J had the so-called Thoma-Schilde (armoured skirts in form of a grid) to reduce the weight of the Panzer and save marterial. Here a picture:

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Well we do already have a question:

Can anyone tell me difference between PzIV aufs H and sufs J? I read somewhere that one of them had inefficient turret traversing system.

I would like to know the answer too.

My personal advice: Walter J Spielberg - Panzer IV and its variants.
Here u will find all this information.

Here a quick information about the differences:
The electrical turret traversing system was replaced by a manual system.
A new 200L fuel tank.
A new "Seitenrichtmaschine" (dont know the english term):
The new machine made it easier to turn around the turret by hand.
And one, two smaller changes in consequence of the "major changes".

The Thoma-Schürze was no special sign of Ausf. J. Old tanks were equipped with this Schürzen, too.

[cephalos]

And was it better than PzIV aufs H or not? I mean in which one would you fight yankee tanks or soviet ones?

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Well - this changes arent as important as the change from Ausf. E to Ausf. F late (with longer 7,5cm Kwk).
Out of my view both tanks had the same combat value. Ausf. J is a bit better to handle and to service.

[cephalos]

Right, thank you

[Paciat]

Can anyone tell me (compare) how many and what kind of guns did a division have ? I want to compare a normal German division with any allied division. I know that Germans usually had more direct fire guns (thick AT screen) while US/UK more howitzers but I dont know any details.

[Sommarkatze]

I have always been fascinated by these unkown rare units. Like the 500th SS parachute battalion or airborne firefighters for exampel or latewars prototypes such as the Maus. So I have always been woundering. Scuba divers unit?

Did these exist or anything? Like a speciall formed unit for scuba infantry or something like that. I Know SAS and other commando troops maybe used Scuba equipment for some missions but Iam asking about troops specially focus on Scuba warfare? ^^

Sorry if it sounds like Iam being unserious but I would love to know

Btw I can already say that Iam not intressted in hearing about mini uboats or those little gizmos. Just pure Scuba divers No ofc no they dont have to fight under water a lá James Bond XD

[RedGuard]

Can anyone tell me (compare) how many and what kind of guns did a division have ? I want to compare a normal German division with any allied division. I know that Germans usually had more direct fire guns (thick AT screen) while US/UK more howitzers but I dont know any details.

Soviet division had most artillery, US doctrine was 30% suppression/kill threshold. while soviet barrage at 30% was just getting started they aim to achieve 90%.

furthermore the artillery attack of US was more fluid an call in reliant as where a soviet barrage was planned for days or even weeks ahead of time. due to the lack of radios and communication in soviet army.

and soviet howitzers were employed in frequent direct fire mission for a number of reason, lack of ammo. or when you finished your barrage you were expected to tow your gun tot he front and contribute to assault!

I forget the source/number but im sure I could locate it again. it showed the ration of man hours needed to complete AT/howitzer guns between US/soviet/german plants.

So what have we learned? Soviet doctrine dictate that their number of guns was highest amongst country of the time. I want to say the commonwealth was second and US 3rd followed by the germans. this last paragraph is purely speculation

[Sturmovik]

Do not forget, Soviet, Wermaht & Allies have different army organisation.
For exellent example - Frontline aviation.
Wermaht & RKKA army Air Force organisaton is Different ... subordination elements & army main perpose is different.

Artillery army perpose depend on frontline army tipe actions & army group strategy.

That was the difference.

Other measures - technological advance ...