who the best special force/elites?

[HyperSniper999]

why dont add the naval infantry is a perfect special unit and is inside eastern front mod.

Where did you get that skin?

It looks good, but the beret needs to be fixed a little. Looks too British.

[IJoe]

Not to flame, really, but...
I do know the specifics of SAS training (at least those that are made public), and I would still call soviat marines the best special recon force of the WW2, - they recieved extensive training to superbly use/handle all kinds of firearms, and even artillery, including the enemy ones, as well as very good close-combat training.
Well, after all, it is a matter of preference. Yet one should consider to actually get to know what he is judging about, which I, for my part, had done.

There's a better skin

[Paciat]

Not to flame, really, but...
I do know the specifics of SAS training (at least those that are made public), and I would still call soviat marines the best special recon force of the WW2, - they recieved extensive training to superbly use/handle all kinds of firearms, and even artillery, including the enemy ones, as well as very good close-combat training.

Yep, in the mid-late 30s Soviets had the lead in many branches of the army. Airborne troops, tanks, artillery... but arent marines an assault force? I mean you dont need to handle enemy guns if youre just a recon force.

[IJoe]

Not to flame, really, but...
I do know the specifics of SAS training (at least those that are made public), and I would still call soviat marines the best special recon force of the WW2, - they recieved extensive training to superbly use/handle all kinds of firearms, and even artillery, including the enemy ones, as well as very good close-combat training.

Yep, in the mid-late 30s Soviets had the lead in many branches of the army. Airborne troops, tanks, artillery... but arent marines an assault force? I mean you dont need to handle enemy guns if youre just a recon force.

You have a point. What would you call 'em then?
Whatever that would be, they were (and still are, but that's OT) the elite of the elites. That was my point. Sorry if I messed it up.

[Sturmovik]

Special Military Teams.

I think, Soviet Marines, or Soviet Paratroopers ... they are making hard successful operationsduring all the war.
Secastopol, Odessa ...
1941-1942 ... descent operations ...
Many of them makes a future Guard & special divisions.

For the special force ...

In 1940, NKVD capture a report from the agents of the ABVER.
(I can not post the source, because the lust time i read & seek 4-6 books ... i can not remember.)
That telegramm says that the Soviet Recon service is very hard for Crack & making anti soviet divertions.

But, know about diversions & counteract for this is different & hard actions.
Future battles of those two special divisions makes an important acts for the first years of the war, battle for Moscow, Stalingrad, Kaukasus, Bagration, anti-Abver-Diversion teams on the Ukrain Republik. Pre war western & Asian recon & diversion operations "makes falls".
Without those successful actions, Victory makes not possible.

[NunsNAmmo]

Nothing pleases me better than uncloaking 2 full MP44-armed Stormtrooper squads 2ft from a mob of infantry. Instant meatgrinder without the hassle.

[RedGuard]

dont forget the ninja nade bundle!

[Cranialwizard]

dont forget the ninja nade bundle!

Unless it goes into a trench or the troops are blobbed together I find it a waste of ammo because it's 25 more ammo for a SLIGHTLY better grenade that does TREMENDOUS damage to infantry in trenches and SLIGHTLY better damage to infantry in cover.

I'd rather use Assault, around 15-20 grenades flung at the enemy and it stuns them, making them unable to fight and more vurnerable to the grenade shower.

[HyperSniper999]

Or for absolutely busting up howitzer emplacements before going ninja and turning the gun against the Brits/Soviets!

[snailcommando]

SAS, No doubt, No Question

/signed   

[Paladin88]

Who dares win 

That's my vote

[Rainbow Dragon]

SAS IS THE BEST NO MATTER WHAT! WITHOUT THEM WE WOULD OF HAD A HARD TIME TAKING FRANCE AND MAY OF EVEN LOST THE WAR!

[Otto Halfhand]

Not to flame, really, but...
I do know the specifics of SAS training (at least those that are made public), and I would still call soviat marines the best special recon force of the WW2, - they recieved extensive training to superbly use/handle all kinds of firearms, and even artillery, including the enemy ones, as well as very good close-combat training.

Yep, in the mid-late 30s Soviets had the lead in many branches of the army. Airborne troops, tanks, artillery... but arent marines an assault force? I mean you dont need to handle enemy guns if youre just a recon force.

You have a point. What would you call 'em then?
Whatever that would be, they were (and still are, but that's OT) the elite of the elites. That was my point. Sorry if I messed it up.

Gee, they work on ships. They handle large caliber guns. I'll bet they hang around in bars too. I'd call em Sailors. Never met a ABS who thought they were anything but elite. 

[Mertypro]

Brandenburgers (German Special Forces).

Lol, I'm a brandenburger xD (part of germany)

[tigerclawstyle]

lol nice.

It's all a matter of preference, but it seems their needs to be a separation between an "Elite Fighting Force" and "Special Forces" rather then grouping them together.

An elite fighting force would be units that were at divisional or brigade strength and fought on the frontlines in the hardest situations. A special forces unit works in small teams behind enemy lines on high risk missions with a high possibility of being detected/captured. Most special forces units in WW2 learned the languages of their enemies, and had ample knowledge of their radio and weapon systems

Alot of the special forces units today trace their lineage back to WW2, and over time have evolved. It's hard to say now, because we weren't there at the time, which specific unit had the hardest training, or which unit would win if they were put up against each other.

The SAS for example are the models for most Western countries special forces programs (SFOD, SASR, NZSAS, JTF-2, French 1er RPIMa) and alot of their techniques were discovered and mastered during WW2, but each individual country took the initial guide and made it into their own. But who are we to judge and say which unit would come out on top when their skill set's they have complement each other.

Each unit then and now has their uniqueness, but when it comes down to it their still human beings and still bleed red. They aren't tied down by what nationality they belong to and were all equally deadly.