What is the point of upgrading the guard squad ?

[TheVolskinator]

Give the Guards a DP-28 or PTRD rifle? The PTRD wouldn't be nearly as effective as the one the Tank Hunters wield, but it might be a nice touch. The PPsH...IMO, unless you have 12+ PPsHs, the weapon blows. Hard. Replace the Slow ability; add Sprint/Fire Up (they are supposed to be breakout/breakthrough units :3 )

[IJoe]

^^ ppsh, or Pistolet-Pulemet Shpagina = Shpagin's Machine-Pistol
is similar/equal to mp40 ATM in all characteristics, if I'm not mistaken.
Which is rather "strange" on any account, IMO

Another way to make this "upgrade" worth its price would be to divide the abilities' cool-down timers by 3

[Dominic 'Dragon' Cassidy]

Perhaps a Toggle-able "Run" Ability?

Doesn't change suppression but gives them the ability to flank fast?

[IJoe]

I also love grenadiers' doctrinal "grenade storm". Something like that for Shock guards (esp. after they reach vet 1 and are unsuppressible) would certainly make my day .

[pariah]

Perhaps a Toggle-able "Run" Ability?

Doesn't change suppression but gives them the ability to flank fast?

If it's just a toggleable ability with no drawbacks, why would anybody turn it off? Much better off with the Sprint ability of the Panzer Elite.

[cephalos]

I also love grenadiers' doctrinal "grenade storm". Something like that for Shock guards (esp. after they reach vet 1 and are unsuppressible) would certainly make my day .

+1
"molotov storm" sound quite funny though.

[GodlikeDennis]

Some of the ideas here are a little OP. Remember that guards are already amazing troops and shock guards only need a little something extra, not assault grenades etc. on top of their existing abilities. Maybe shock guards should just get a cooldown reduction on their abilities like IJoe suggested.

[RedGuard]

Guards dont need anything added to them leave them as is. Just decrease the cost of the upgrade and it will be perfect IMO to what dennis suggest 40muni 25fuel


Mods/devs whats the official  statement on this for next patch? Is this being considered?

[Sturmovik]

May be he bear in mind another matter (my words is correct?) ...
Stormtrooper group.
In Stalingrad there was a small groups of expiriensed troopers with full automatic infantry weapons & infantry MG's ... They are equiped with bullet protection sometime.
Group was consist of 8-12 mens, with granades & "molotovs".
(May be not upgrading, but call in ...)

With 5 visible troops, 2 armed with PD-27 LMG, others equiped with PPSh. All swuited with armour protection.

Plastic models of the Soviet Assault Group 1944-1945

[Blackbishop]

@Sturmovik
I see...

There are some changes for Shock Guards to be implemented in the next patch. But that doesn't mean you should stop suggesting, the more the merrier !

[RedGuard]

The way Im seeing it is that the guards are absolutely perfect the way they are, its the shock guard upgrade thats in dire need of price reduction

50 fuels and 100 munition is just way way too high for one member and slow 

thats all

guards are not being nerfed are they? please not another nerf not our beloved guards. they're the only soviet elite infantry worth a lick in a straight shootout and we need them how they are now. they scale well with vet for fighting axis vetted troops, that is if you can get guards their vet