Single player campaigns suggestions

[IJoe]

is there any ostheer suggestions?

No.
Why do you ask?

[Blackbishop]

In either case, soviets have priority on that .

[Sturmovik]

It is possible, that campaigns ideas is take a lace ealier, but i wish to try.

All Campaigns will repeat history eveants, historical battles.

1. "Dying but don't surrender." "Умираю но не сдаюсь."
Country border defence & winter counterattack.

Campaign battle group: NKVD border defence forces. (Naming can be corrected.)
History event: 132 NKVD battalion "hold the line" near the border of the country, wile main frontline RKKA korps retreating for build the defence line near Kiev. Hard bloody fighting aling to one month, including Brest Fortress defence.
42 NKVD convoy brigade in Belorussia, near Minsk city hold a bridge in 4 days, while evacuation is proceding. It's hard defence line with 15km longtitude, against motorised divition with 300 tanks.
6 NKVD divisions reforms to infantry divitions for the Moscow defence line. They are hold the main defence lane, counterattack then to 80-100km in depth of the front.
Moscow defence map for change a battle places & later transfer to the campaign:



Conditions - pure tank resources, NKVD infantry battlegroups with Molotovs availability.

2. "Behind the Volga river we have no land." Stalingrad.
NKVD stuff organise field sniper school. Experienced on border battles, NKVD officers & soldiers transfers to the hot points of the frontline to teach tallent soldiers as a snipers.
Agents got the information about "Blau" operation.
There are long time streetfighting episodes & near city hard war episodes.
Bloody Mamaevs mound, hard long defence of Pavlovs house, "Uran" operation, Operation "Circle".
For example - Pavlovs House have a basement with a soviet forvard defence line. Along those basement stuff sending food, ammo & reinforcements. With MG nests, minefields & barbed wires was helpfull for holding the line.
During Stalingrad battle, take a place tank attacks, counteroffensive, massive sniper tactics, & new version of Tank break-through army doctrine.
Battlegroup: Stalingrad front against Army group B.

Conditions: Hard defense, medium offensive difficulty.

3. "Steel offensive" Kursk

Events:
Summer–Autumn Campaign of 1943 (1 July – 31 December) include:

Kursk Strategic Defensive Operation (5–23 July 1943)

Orel-Kursk Defensive Operation (5–11 July)
    Belgorod-Kursk Defensive Operation (5–23 July)

Orel Strategic Counter-offensive Operation (codenamed Operation Kutuzov) (12 July – 18 August 1943)

Volkhov-Orel Offensive Operation (12 July – 18 August)
    Kromy-Orel Offensive Operation (15 July – 18 August)

Belgorod–Kharkov Counter-offensive Offensive Operation (codenamed Operation Rumyantsev) (3–23 August 1943)

Belgorod–Bogodukhov Offensive Operation (3–23 August)

Battle of Prokhorovka (12 July 1943)

Zmiyev Offensive Operation (12–23 August)
(There are lot of information ... posting later if neded.)

Campaign can be divided into 2-4-8 large scale episodes.

4. "Eastern front falls - "Operation "Bagration"
Events:
The battle - first phase: the tactical breakthrough
The first phase of Soviet deep operations, the "deep battle" envisaged breaking through the tactical zones and forward German defences. Once these tactical offensives had been successful, fresh operational reserves exploited the breakthrough and the operational depths of the enemy front using powerful mechanized and armoured formations to encircle enemy concentrations on an Army Group Scale.

Vitebsk-Orsha Offensive
Mogilev Offensive
Bobruysk Offensive
& others
Second phase: Strategic offensive against Army Group Centre
The second phase of Operation Bagration involved the entire operation's most significant single objective: the retaking of Minsk, capital of the Belorussian SSR. It would also complete the large-scale encirclement and destruction, set up by the first phase, of much of Army Group Centre.

Minsk Offensive
Polotsk Offensive
...
Third phase: strategic offensive operations in the south
As German resistance had almost completely collapsed, Soviet forces were ordered to push on as far as possible beyond the original objective of Minsk, and new objectives were issued by the Stavka. This resulted in a third phase of offensive operations, which should be regarded as a further part of Operation Bagration.
Feldmarshal Walter Model, who had taken over command of Army Group Centre on 28 June when Ernst Busch was sacked, hoped to reestablish a defensive line running through Lida using what was left of Third Panzer, Fourth and Ninth Armies along with new reinforcements.

Šiauliai Offensive
Vilnius Offensive
Belostock Offensive
Lublin-Brest Offensive
Kaunas Offensive
Osovets Offensive
...
(Map for easy battle places finding.)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/BagrationMap2.jpg

Conditions: Large scale, hard offensive fighting, massive tank armys applied.

It's for ideas only ...

[BurroDiablo]

Topics merged

[Otto Halfhand]

It is possible, that campaigns ideas is take a place earlier, but i wish to try....All Campaigns will repeat history eveants, historical battles.

Hedgehopper greetings. your campaign maps were unavailable on wiki. MS. said something about errors in the upload. What is the name of the book and publisher they were found in? maybe i can get my library to order it. I don't know cyrillic for borsht. I was fascinated by the notes on Operation Silver Fox I didn't know about the joint operation between the xxxvi Mtn Corps and the Finnish III mtn corps to take Murmansk.  In any case the Maps are great. A campaign scenario on the OKW's assault on the triple defence lines would be wild.  from the Ostheer player's side but seems like the plans are being made for a Sov Faction campaign. Ah well there will be time enough later to develop mods on the EF mod. The maps seem to indicate a paradrop into a  Sov. pocket west of Moscow. Is this a supply drop or an airbourne operation?  If you take half as much care in designing your campaign as you did in crafting this post the campaign will be great!

[TheVolskinator]

A Berlin campaign. Missions:

• Crossing of the Oder river
• Seelow Heights
• Battle of Halbe
• Berlin outskirts
• Battle for the Reichstag

Fight your way onto the German capitol city.

Sounds like CoD: World at War.....

[RedGuard]

Ostheer campaign: operation barbarossa

soviet campaign: the counter offensive on to berlin!

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

Ostheer campaign: operation barbarossa

soviet campaign: the counter offensive on to berlin!

Not quite accurate

New suggestion (as an alternative to Stalingrad):

Rschew (Rzhev) pocket

As the Wehrmacht progressed onto Moscow, the Soviets took heavy casualties defending their capital. But in the hard Russian winter of 1941, the German steamroller could be stopped. Now 3 German armies are standing in front of Moscows doors. You, an Army of the Kalinin Front, are up to encircle the fascists and cut their head of by surrounding them.

This mission would be great for Partizan missions, too (look at the map)

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

I'm fascinated that u always think of the same campaign ideas like all other strategy games had already used.
I'm also fascinated that u think of 1941 campaigns when u know all the Ostheer stuff xD

So; My first point is a possible setting from 1942 till 1944. 3 years of war where u can search for an nice campaign story.

Basing on this frame i would think of a campaign around a special soldier or a special unit or a special battle event.
Examples for my "structure" are:
special persons -> e.g. for a real person: campaign around tiger ace Otto Carius with the big final at the battle of the bocage of the eastern front near Dünaburg (dont know english name of this town)
e.g. for a fictional person: Feldwebel Rolf Steiner basing on the story The Willing Flesh - Das geduldige Fleisch by Willi Heinrich.

special unit -> e.g. Tiger-Abteilungen or StuG-Abteilungen or Divisions like Großdeutschland and so one - a lot of stories could told by using such a frame!

special battles -> e.g. the pocket of tscherkassy or battle of budapest and so one. Such a frame would limit the campaign structure but u had a real battle event u cold narrate

So. Lot of possibilities ^^ Not all the time all this "old" stories like an other campaign of the beginning of operation Barbarossa or the battle of Stalingrad. This is (in german words ) 0815! ^^

[RedGuard]

I'm fascinated that u always think of the same campaign ideas like all other strategy games had already used.

yeah i think all the  strategy games have the same story because there is only one story

try to be too creative and original and it ends up being like wtf?! its not the story that makes WWII games succesful or fail its how you portray it and the depth of the gameplay/units. and in this department we have a winner 

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

I'm fascinated that u always think of the same campaign ideas like all other strategy games had already used.

yeah i think all the  strategy games have the same story because there is only one story

Or is it because we (well, at least some of us) only know history from computer games? Sad but true. I don't consider myself to this group, my bookshelves are full of WW2 books. So there was the idea of Rzhev pocket. I will look for some other interesting, non-mainstram battles later 

[RedGuard]

I'm fascinated that u always think of the same campaign ideas like all other strategy games had already used.

yeah i think all the  strategy games have the same story because there is only one story

Or is it because we (well, at least some of us) only know history from computer games? Sad but true. I don't consider myself to this group, my bookshelves are full of WW2 books. So there was the idea of Rzhev pocket. I will look for some other interesting, non-mainstram battles later 

A story has many chapters, but its still the same story

Im glad I didnt learn my history from computer games too

[HyperSniper999]

I think it'd be interesting to set the OH campaign in the Balkans or Hungary. It is far off the beaten path taken by games like Call of Duty, and would be interesting seeing Germans and Russians duke it out in foreign lands. It'd also be a good place to see foreign troops come in.

I havn't heard of the battle towards Moscow in videogames, or Leningrad for that matter. They could also be good in a campaign.

And Rommel, I hate that idea. That is exactly what made Tales of Valor lousy. If you are going to focus on a unit, it better be atleast a regiment or division.

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

And Rommel, I hate that idea. That is exactly what made Tales of Valor lousy. If you are going to focus on a unit, it better be atleast a regiment or division level.

1.) Which idea xD
2.) CoH vanilla and Opposing Fronts used units, too.
In CoH vanilla u played the able company of 101st US Airborn and in OF the Kampfgruppe Lehr (perhaps a mix of all this small Kampfgruppen around Arnhem and co ). So i dont see a problem to build up an Ostheer campaign around a special unit.

@REDcommissar:
One note; There isnt one story There is one history
Otherwise we wont have so much books and memoirs about this history.

I personally prefer the idea to build up an Ostheer campaign around a special person - fictive or real. ^^

[HyperSniper999]

And Rommel, I hate that idea. That is exactly what made Tales of Valor lousy. If you are going to focus on a unit, it better be atleast a regiment or division level.

1.) Which idea xD
2.) CoH vanilla and Opposing Fronts used units, too.
In CoH vanilla u played the able company of 101st US Airborn and in OF the Kampfgruppe Lehr (perhaps a mix of all this small Kampfgruppen around Arnhem and co ). So i dont see a problem to build up an Ostheer campaign around a specific unit

Your hero idea. Sure, there were some very epic people in the war 9Audie Murphy, Vasily Zaitsev) but I just thought hero squads or individual characters just doesn't make sense and isn't really fun. I'm all for divisions and regiments and such, but focussing on individual squads is just too small. The original campaigns and OF are what I'd want.