Single player campaigns suggestions

[Seeme]

I was thinking, wouldn't the Ostheer have the same missions as the soviets?

Maybe you should do Ostheer battles of to Half of Stalingrad, then Soviet Missions After that.

[pariah]

Makes sense - Play as the Soviet army when they are winning, and then as the Ostheer when they are winning. Granted it would be backwards, but it wouldn't be the first time in Company Of Heroes...

[IJoe]

I was thinking, wouldn't the Ostheer have the same missions as the soviets?

Maybe you should do Ostheer battles of to Half of Stalingrad, then Soviet Missions After that.

Makes sense - Play as the Soviet army when they are winning, and then as the Ostheer when they are winning. Granted it would be backwards, but it wouldn't be the first time in Company Of Heroes...

Ignorance (even a generic one) doesn't really make up for a history knowledge, guys. First major battle to be lost by german army was the battle for Moscow in 1941. Winter 1941-42 was the time of the first soviet offensive. That offensive pushed back the positions of the german army for 150-400 kilometers (it was a major offensive)
Don't look silly - google before posting (at least).

[pariah]

Sorry, IJoe, but i have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

[IJoe]

Sorry, IJoe, but i have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

Mostly about Seeme's post and you agreeing with it, but never mind, keep you mind as clean as possible (oh! did I just make a calembour ?).

[Troynl]

for the Ostheer you could make a campaign in germany, where the Ostheer fight with a lot outdated units like panzer III and panzer II and marauder II. vs the sovjet horde

[Seeme]

OMG IJoe, I know that they were fighting back, but Stalingrad was to Turning point basically, so I assumed it would to be playing as Ostheer when they were doing good, and Soviets when they were crumbling.

Dude, stop being a history fanatic.

How about you start thinking about it before you post your history mumble jumble.

[IJoe]

OMG IJoe, I know that they were fighting back, but Stalingrad was to Turning point basically, so I assumed it would to be playing as Ostheer when they were doing good, and Soviets when they were crumbling.

Dude, stop being a history fanatic.

How about you start thinking about it before you post your history mumble jumble.

There's nothing wrong with being an educated person with a broad knowledge of history and a love for it. On the contrary.
I do not like people saying nonsensual things - true! So what? Does it make me a history fanatic? Not really.
No need to be hiding behind the curtain of presenting history (and it's not like I mentioned some detail, that is known only to scholars, - it is know to virtually anyone, who has ever seriously tried to learn about the WW2 in it's entirety) as something of no or little value, while saying things, that look strange at the least.
Basically, this isn't some softball league (or whatever you, US high school students play these days), - we discuss possible campaign script here, which is supposed to be based on history, more or less, and saying that soviets were loosing 'till the very Stalingrad battle is simply false, as I have noted.
Knowledge is power!

Cheers!

Yeah, pardon me for all this OT stuff, - it's friday, and I just came back home from a "reggae party" of a sort 

[Mattdamon07]

i really want to play a battle in berlin as the germans

[SublimeSnugz]

Yeah, pardon me for all this OT stuff, - it's friday, and I just came back home from a "reggae party" of a sort

That explains everything! so you are high while posting here? not trying to be stereotypical at all 

I wouldent care if the campaign missions arent 100% accurate. As long as they are fun to play.

[IJoe]

Hey! We all get our highs and lows,- this is life, right? 
...Anyway, I was thinking of a Stalingrad map (Soviet campaign), where you would start forcing your way out of Volga onto the quay (1st objective), capture the Mill house (2nd objective), advance to the sgt. Pavlov's house (a.k.a. Dom Pavlova), capture it and hold it against a counter attack (a real heavy one, with artillery and coming in three waves). That would be fun (IMO), intense and somewhat historically accurate (kind o' pressing events of several moths into a one-day operation).

[Killar]

I like the trun campaign. 1 map for 3 different battles. I could imagine this for Stalingrad too.

1.: Defend Stalingrad against the advancing Ostheer (but you have to retreat to the Volga)

2.: Battle at Pavlovs house or at the mill

3.: Retake Stalingrad

All on the same map. Maybe side missions like sniper ace that takes out 3 Officers and has to go cloaked trough german lines

[Sommarkatze]

The battle of kursk would be a neat campaigne

And maybe a offensiv defensive campaigne in Finland the summer of 44 from the germans perspective ? ^^

The fanboys are going to go crazy hoping for finnish soldiers if the campaigne takes place there and it would be fun to like HELL NO *trollface* not a singel finnish soldier XD

[Rebel]

For Berlin itself, it definitely should be done in three parts:

1. The penetration of the suburbs, following the path of the 3rd Shock Army in its attack on Pankow and Reinickendorf (To the north of the Reichstag area). This would be standard residential house-to-house fighting.

2. The fighting in the city center. I'm a little unsure of whether the 3rd Shock Army should be played again, or if the 8th Guards Army would be better. I lean towards the 8th, if only because the fighting in the Tiergarten would be rather interesting. This would see a lot more fighting centered on large, important landmarks and buildings rather than residential housing.

3. The assault on the Reichstag area. I'd suggest that it should begin with the 3rd Shock Army's assault on the Moltke Bridge, and end with the clearing of the Konigsplatz up the entrance to the Reichstag.

Now, for the rest of the campaign. Here are some of my suggestions for battles, to provide some interesting variation throughout:

Soviet Campaign

Part 1: Defense of the Motherland

- Begins with the Battle of Leningrad, with 1-2 missions devoted to the defense of the route to the city and the city itself.

- Then moves on to Moscow herself, with 2 missions devoted for the city's defense and 1 to the immediate counterattack on December 5th.

- Here we skip to the Battle of Voronezh, with a mission devoted to the defense against the original German attack, and to a counterattack to liberate that area (Which only partially succeeds).

- Next, Stalingrad. This is already discussed in plenty of detail, so I think I don't have to talk much about it. I would suggest 2-3 missions focused upon its defense.

As the battle for Stalingrad reaches its peak at Pavlov's House, the Soviet counterattack begins.

Part 2: Reclaiming the Motherland

- As I mentioned above, the first two missions should be focused upon the Soviet encirclement of the defenders at Kalach (Part of Operation Little Saturn), and then on the defeat of Manstein's Operation Winter Storm.

- A mission devoted to the Battle of Novorossiysk, centered on the capture and defense of Malaya Zemlya.

- From here we skip ahead a bit to the Battle of Kursk. I'd suggest 3 missions devoted to this battle. The first at Ponyri, on the northern face of the salient, with heavy back and forth fighting between both sides as the Soviets attempt to push the Germans back, and the Germans try to push forward. Then we switch to the southern face, with the Defense of Syrtzevo in which the Soviets defend against the German assault, and the climactic Battle of Prokhorovka.

- After that comes the Soviet Counterattack. The first mission is for Operation Kutozov, the Soviet counterattack towards Orel. Another mission is devoted to Operation Polkovodets Rumyantsev, the southern counterattack against Kharkov and Belgorod.

- Two missions, one for the Lower Dnieper Strategic Offensive Operation, and one for the Battle of Kiev.

- One mission for the recapture of Smolensk.

- One mission for the lifting of the Siege of Leningrad.

- Three missions for the Dnieper-Carpathian offensive. The first for the Korsun Pocket (Supposedly very, very bloody and violent) the second for the assault across the Bug, and the third for the Battle and liberation of Odessa by the 8th Guards Army, attacking through a blizzard.

With Odessa free, the Ostheer in retreat on all fronts, and the Red Army poised to crush them once and for all, we turn to.......

Part 3: Assault on the Reich

- OPERATION BAGRATION. Yeah, in all caps. This is one of my favorite offensives. Let’s give it three missions. One for the assault and encirclement of Vitebsk, another for the taking of Mogilev, and finally, the liberation of Minsk.

- Next we have a mission devoted to the Battle of Riga and the ensuing encirclement of German forces in the Courland Pocket.

- 3 missions, devoted to the fighting in Hungary, especially around Budapest. The first focuses on the fighting in Pest, on the eastern side of the Danube, with heavy urban fighting. Then there's another mission for the halt of the German attempt to liberate the city. Finally, there’s the taking of Buda itself, which will be very hard due to the hilly nature of the city.

- 2 missions for the Vistula-Oder offensive. The first for the Battle of Warsaw (More bloody urban combat), the second for Zhukov’s advance to the Oder.

I'm not quite sure where to go from here, but there's a lot already. Thoughts?

[Mattdamon07]

is there any ostheer suggestions?