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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2011, 06:46:59 PM »
By no means Soviets are weak. Whether the SU-100 is going to be kept or discarded isn't going to be discussed here. For now wait until the next patch is released and then express your opinion after reading it's changelog.

There's no reason to discuss uncommitted changes.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2011, 04:53:59 AM »
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"Population isn't really a balancing factor since it doesn't mean anything unless you're capped, which only really happens in compstomps/bridge maps. That said, I have no idea why Zerst decided changing population was a good idea."
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Basically I mean that changing the pop cap doesn't REALLY balance a unit since in 1v1 balancing (the primary balance concern), pop cap is rarely an issue since you don't really come close to it often. The same can usually be said for 2v2AT as well, the other realm where balance is important.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2011, 11:40:45 AM »
And why is the Soviet tank hunters are using the British AT rifle??? The Soviet AT rifle is way better than the British one. The PTRS-41 can penetrate 25mm steel at the range of 500m. While the British BOY AT rifle can only penetrate 21mm (0.827 in) at 302m (330yards).

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2011, 11:51:06 AM »
Tank hunters will be getting their PTRD model soon.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #49 on: March 18, 2011, 04:47:44 PM »
And why is the Soviet tank hunters are using the British AT rifle??? The Soviet AT rifle is way better than the British one. The PTRS-41 can penetrate 25mm steel at the range of 500m. While the British BOY AT rifle can only penetrate 21mm (0.827 in) at 302m (330yards).

Because gameplay has priority over realism.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2011, 05:12:28 PM »
And why is the Soviet tank hunters are using the British AT rifle??? The Soviet AT rifle is way better than the British one. The PTRS-41 can penetrate 25mm steel at the range of 500m. While the British BOY AT rifle can only penetrate 21mm (0.827 in) at 302m (330yards).

Because gameplay has priority over realism.
Indeed, no matter if they are using BOYS AT rifle or PTRD-41, their stats will remain the same. Only the model will be updated.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2011, 02:34:29 AM »
Gameplay MUST have the priority over realism, except in campaign levels, which I am sure the mod team said they will try to work on it.

Other than that, I agree that the russians are not weak. You need to rush-tech to either T34s or Guards as your core, strekly as your support, Penal/conscripts as your cannon fodder, and the IS as your Ultra-powerful tank. If he gets you early game, well, its the same as the US getting the Wher early game

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2011, 10:40:11 AM »
the IS as your Ultra-powerful tank

T34/85 is actually much more combat-capable than the IS-2, and is cheaper btw, in my opinion!
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2011, 10:59:50 AM »
A single T-34/85 is actually more expensive than an IS-2. But for mass production, I agree T-34s are better than IS-2s.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #54 on: March 25, 2011, 04:16:20 PM »
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #55 on: March 25, 2011, 04:49:49 PM »
After I mentioned it.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #56 on: March 26, 2011, 12:31:12 AM »
I personally don't think T34/85's are worth all the fuel you have to spend to get them.

Often games don't get to the point where you can mass produce them, making them a gamble.

We all know the SU-100's are what's needed to take out panthers, so what exactly is their place?

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #57 on: March 26, 2011, 12:49:00 AM »
I recall someone saying, there will be no more SU-100 after the nearest patch  :(

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #58 on: March 26, 2011, 02:32:12 AM »
Don't know if in the next patch, but soon.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #59 on: March 26, 2011, 10:20:52 AM »
I recall someone saying, there will be no more SU-100 after the nearest patch  :(

Because they are OP or because of gameplay? :P

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