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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2011, 02:46:21 PM »
then you could chancel the t34 85 also  >:(

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2011, 05:56:51 PM »
I recall someone saying, there will be no more SU-100 after the nearest patch  :(

Because they are OP or because of gameplay? :P
Ofc gameplay is the reason xD.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2011, 06:39:59 PM »
then you could chancel the t34 85 also  >:(
:o
Its like saing could you cancel PEs Panther Battle Group.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2011, 07:21:05 PM »
then you could chancel the t34 85 also  >:(
:o
Its like saing could you cancel PEs Panther Battle Group.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2011, 04:48:26 AM »
And why is the Soviet tank hunters are using the British AT rifle??? The Soviet AT rifle is way better than the British one. The PTRS-41 can penetrate 25mm steel at the range of 500m. While the British BOY AT rifle can only penetrate 21mm (0.827 in) at 302m (330yards).

Because gameplay has priority over realism.
Indeed, no matter if they are using BOYS AT rifle or PTRD-41, their stats will remain the same. Only the model will be updated.

Yes, I know. I was just wonder why would the Red Army use the British weapon that's all. And could we suggest to reduce the tank hunter into 2 man and with 4 population cost? This way it is easlier for people to manage. Other wise one AT gun and plus one conscript team only cost 7 population while tank hunter cost 8. So not many people would train them.

And about the Guards. Could we still suggest to give them at least give the upgraded gurad one DP-27? Because using semis to pin the enemy down just doesn't make any sense. And about the garrison mode. Most of the infantries can not use their abilities while in garrison mode. It is not very realistic. We wise if we can throw a RPG-43 or a cocktail when a tank drive pass our building.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2011, 05:35:30 AM »
THs had the boys model because their PTRD model was not finished/working. Unless you want the THs carrying invisible weapons this is how it had to be.

Tell your suppressive fire comment to relic, who gave PE G43s the ability first. I don't see why a hail of bullets, no matter the source, wouldn't make soldiers dive for cover. G43s/SVTs make a pretty angry noise when fired quickly anyway.

SU-100 is being taken out (probably) because it is hardly ever used in a real game. There is very little point in it when SU-85s already penetrate everything and deal good damage. Another use might be found for it.
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2011, 09:28:56 AM »
i find rifles more devestating than machine-guns though. Machine-Guns have high recoil due to their firing speed. If the gunman is very accurate it won't matter much anyway :P



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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2011, 12:50:15 PM »
And the sound of the PTRS-41 is not correct. I have found one on youtube
PTRS anti-tank rifle

Post Merge: March 27, 2011, 06:30:58 AM
Bug found, the Su-100 has no texture for some reason. The newest patch I mean. I have just been testing it and found that Su-100 is a snowwhite.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2011, 02:32:44 PM by Flanker1949 »

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2011, 05:06:30 PM »
And the sound of the PTRS-41 is not correct. I have found one on youtube

Be pretty hard to sound like that the vid is in slow-mo :D

Also i'd like to point out thats a PTRS not a PTRD and they may be slight differences in their sounds to begin with.



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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2011, 05:11:18 PM »
SU-100 texture is a glitch to do with player colour. Vehicles are lighter or darker depending on the player. SU-100 will be removed soon anyway, but don't freak the fuck out because we have other stuff planned... we're not just going to remove it and leave it at that ::)

SU-100 will be back in the future, with a new model, probably as a reward for the ISU.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2011, 06:10:12 PM »
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And the sound of the PTRS-41 is not correct. I have found one on youtube

No the current sound for the PTRS is good, your realistic PTRS sounds way too much like a howitser.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2011, 10:36:41 PM »
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And the sound of the PTRS-41 is not correct. I have found one on youtube

No the current sound for the PTRS is good, your realistic PTRS sounds way too much like a howitser.

+1

Looks like an entire artillery regiment is firing at once!
Would be strange in COH!
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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #72 on: March 28, 2011, 12:56:52 AM »
Personally I'd like to see less SU-85 / 100's running around and more T34's.

I find myself not going for T34's (especially T34/85's) because they just cost too much fuel to unlock, and then I find them lacking.

I'd really like to see them as the go to unit for mid / end Russian games, but they're comparable to a Sherman and cost a lot of cost fuel to unlock.

I'd almost rather they be nerfed a little and made cheaper / easier to unlock. So that the Russians can use them in numbers as they did historically.

Just a thought..

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2011, 01:49:57 AM »
Just make the SUs harder to lay hands on, or nerf t-34 series, and you're about done, since germans will eat you right away.
IMO, to insrease the usage of t-34 you'd have to make 'em harder against paks, which is something no one is going to do.

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Re: Does anyone think that the Soviet is a bit too weak?
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2011, 04:12:11 AM »
And the sound of the PTRS-41 is not correct. I have found one on youtube

Be pretty hard to sound like that the vid is in slow-mo :D

Also i'd like to point out thats a PTRS not a PTRD and they may be slight differences in their sounds to begin with.

The first fire is in normal mode and the second fire is in slow mode. And by the way, that is another thing I am pushing ---- to have PTRS instead of PTRD   ;)

Post Merge: March 28, 2011, 04:14:06 AM
SU-100 will be back in the future, with a new model, probably as a reward for the ISU.

Great news!
« Last Edit: March 28, 2011, 04:14:06 AM by Flanker1949 »