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Offline King Tiger 314

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Armor suggestions (All factions)
« on: February 10, 2011, 08:26:43 PM »
This is a bunch of ideas to make tanks historicaly more correct.
This are only ideas so don't go mad if u don't like it.




1st AI americans make to much ATguns...is there any way to make them more tanks insted AT guns???
Example:
Cheaper tanks,faster deploy = a lot of allied tanks and let the tank fight begin!(instead my panzers facing loads of AT guns and maybe 1-2 shermans)

2st Tiger II & Jagdtiger frontal armor inpenetrable but weaker sides and much weaker rear.(wich is historically correct.u must notice that their frontal slope 180mm armor was NEVER PENETRATED in WWII.
Impenetrable may sound too much unbalanced but it should be resistant atleast to bazookas and other AT hand weapons.
Also if it is possible to script that their engines broke up oftenly (even if not hit in the engine)They had many mechanical breakdowns wich are main reason why they didn't prove in war soo good.

3st
ISU-152 even sttonger gun but much weaker armor.
   ISU-152, ISU-152-2
120 mm (mantlet (maximum))
90 mm (lower hull front, lower hull side and superstructure front)
75 mm (upper hull side)
60 mm (upper hull front)
ISU-152 model 1945
320 mm (in the area of the gun)
160 mm (mantlet)
120 mm (hull front, superstructure front and upper superstructure side)
90 mm (lower superstructure side)
U think that ISU rly deserves such good armor in coh when in reallity it could be penetrated by most of german guns (except in the small gun area)???

4st
T-34/74 much weaker armor (it should be same as the sherman by armor)I rly doubt that any of T-34 series could hold so much against german weaponry.and cheaper cmon soviets made over 80k of them....

5st
StuG IV less good against infantry.(It was designed to destroy enemy tanks not to snipe infantry.

6st
Adding M36/M16 AP round ability (it is time to give some gunpower to their tank destroyers wich they had in reality).

7st
KV-2 weaker armour or gunn.They may seem large and that makes u feel that KV-2 is tankeater !WRONG!size and notsloped armor are its flaws ,not to mention its very slow speed.only 200-250 produced of them and soviets give up of KV-2 very quick by trying to make KV-3 wich will eventually be replaced by KV-1S and IS series.KV-2 proven to be fail do u rly think that it deserves such good power and armor in coh?If all stay same the limit should be placed like one  KV-2 per time.

8st
Panther should have often engine breakdowns (even if not damaged)Due its heavy weight for the medium tank and very bad quality of german fuel it suffered great engine flaws as shown:Battle of kursk in 1943 ,200 panthers deployed 80 panthers were mechanicaly inoperative and 2 destroyed by engine fire.

9st
Hetzer weaker armor.hetzer 60mm of armor can't last so long like shown in coh ,it is absurd something should be done.More weaker to AP rounds or AT hand wepz.

10th
Ostwind Flakpanzer should recieve damage in small amount from infantry becouse it had opet turret(like marder III and halftracks)

There should be more or add some by urselfs.



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Re: Armor suggestions (All factions)
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 08:43:00 PM »
FFS, not another one of these topics ::)

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Re: Armor suggestions (All factions)
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 08:45:45 PM »
We aren't gonna make changes to vanilla factions, let alone to bring "historical realism".

"Panther should have often engine breakdowns" you say?? There is no realism mod that implemented it yet, you might guess the reason; also, why should we do it besides knowing that we follow the steps of the original CoH?

StuG IV is an assault gun, it was designed to support infantry, it's kind of a bonus that they were good at armor :).

T-34/76 already has sherman armor afaik.

Honestly i don't know why Relic didn't put AP rounds to M10s as well(giving AP rounds to MG teams, ATGs). But this is up to them.

No matter what armor/gun values have tank X or tank Y in RL, Realism < Balance. If you want to play a realism mod you can visit Normady 44, Blitzkrieg, Battle of the Bulge, Back to Basics.
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Re: Armor suggestions (All factions)
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 10:27:30 PM »
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Re: Armor suggestions (All factions)
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 10:51:04 PM »
Fine than NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!  ;D

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