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Offline GeneralDeath

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RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« on: February 10, 2011, 12:59:29 AM »
well when axis can just walk over your line even with brens and rifle grenades somethings wrong each time i hit some guy spamming infantry and killing my tanks with rockets then getting my men with rifles or light mgs so i propose a smg like what commados have to counter this problem.

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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 01:39:58 AM »
I guess you have yet to actually deploy the SAS Commandos (the ones you get from the non-doctrinal Glider) who are armed with 3 Thompson SMGs and 1 PIAT. More than enough to kill any blob if you are defending and have a couple of MGs to help support them.

Oh and please do try to write much more clearly (I understand that English might not be your first language, but please do try ;) )

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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 06:53:54 AM »
There is no problem. You just aren't very good. Brens and riflenades are excellent AI weapons. They also get SAS raiders as neosdark said, which are very good troops. If blobs are a problem, mortar/arty is the answer or a well placed vickers nest.
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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 06:09:45 PM »
Its always been my understanding that blob vs blob Brits always come out as the winners...apart from a vetted MP44 blob...or a much larger WH gren3 blob

Bren carriers with 30 cals also pack a good suppression if I remember.

Point is, RMC do not have less firepower than vanila Brits, so if you could win before, you should be able to win now. If not, then it's mostly down to the fact that you need improve your game with them.

RMC were done to avoid blob tactics by the Brits to be fair...
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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2011, 01:12:45 AM »
well when axis can just walk over your line even with brens and rifle grenades somethings wrong each time i hit some guy spamming infantry and killing my tanks with rockets then getting my men with rifles or light mgs so i propose a smg like what commados have to counter this problem.

Ill clear this up alittle,
First, As i know of the brits have only the commandos for close combat after picking your doc tree. I played a very annoying game where my opponet just loved spamming. when he saw how i got early tanks (thats right the comet and armor cars) assuming as all axis tatics were to get to tanks fast where i would have been over powered. he spams Grenadiers for counter measure and upgrades them with the anti tank weapon (name excapes me atm) and mg42s. Since i was marines who dont have the trench ability making it hard being able to hold territoy while he used hit and run tatics. when i get my tanks over he will bring up his anti tank infantry and nearly kill my tanks but i was ready i had jeeps and brens guns to get any infantry that opossed me but he rushes up and kills them with mg42s then anti tank gets my jeeps so i send in raiders 3 squads to control this moshpit this doesnt work even tho supported by chuchhill and t17 he kills them all the raiders were just worthless. thats why i think there should be a smg upgrade for marines because it would have saved my game. the raiders were a joke like a guy talking bad but hes a freakin ***** when it came down to it.

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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2011, 03:40:52 AM »
Uhh, so you didn't even use brens or riflenades, or a LT and are complaining that vet grenspam beat you...

There is no balance problem. Again, you're just not very good. If you can't remember what shreks are you obviously don't play alot. I guess this means you actually have a life right?
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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 12:16:48 PM »
Uhh, so you didn't even use brens or riflenades, or a LT and are complaining that vet grenspam beat you...

There is no balance problem. Again, you're just not very good. If you can't remember what shreks are you obviously don't play alot. I guess this means you actually have a life right?
+1

Sorry dude, but you clearly did the wrong things in that game. plus, since you had raiders and jeeps(+ you should have had bren carrier) why didn't you switch sides of the map and cap the other side?
You should have been doing the hit and run, not the Grens.
Jeeps don't do stand up fights...they do ninja killing of isolated units all over the map and MG flanking.
the best thing to do is learn more about the faction, study your replay and see what you should have done better.
Also what is usually forgotten with RMC is that they're not US rifles and cost a lot to reinforce. So you need to have muni on the side to actively heal them or you'll fall back in teching because of MP loss
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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2011, 10:28:31 PM »
Hmm, ill try that Zers.

its not that im ain't good its just trying to get the feel of Marines. if i didnt want to try anything knew i would just play normal CoH and play as PE since to me in normal CoH there is no point to be allys they just dont have enough flexability like the axis. if i didnt play as PE alot i would know the name shrek better but i dont get over it. I favor to be moble and use tatics and strategic placment to kill my enemy ( you wont believe what a Tank hunters can do at long range vs a pack of shermans) instead of throwing all my resources for a large amount of tanks to atk my enemys base when they atk me i counter then kill there base.



"Uhh, so you didn't even use brens or riflenades, or a LT and are complaining that vet grenspam beat you..."

Did i not say i did use Bren guns!!!!!!  all because i discribed what happened ingame doesnt mean i didnt use bren guns normal infantry suck without the upgrade. dont act high if you cant read "Let me clear this up alittle" doesnt mean i was dismissing what was said only adding to it.

its also not about balence at all if your ever read history or anything military you will know the Royal Marine commandos used smgs alot in there time they were ment to be a light to medium weight force like having anti tank rifles and believe it or not was a weapon they used. the weapon is called Boys anti- Tank Rifle. so asking to have a smg instead of some raiders is completely fine.

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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 10:47:37 PM »
Three out of four men in your raider squad carry the Thompson SMG, how many more do you want?

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Re: RMC needs anti infantry weapon for Marine section
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2011, 02:15:08 AM »

its also not about balence at all if your ever read history or anything military you will know the Royal Marine commandos used smgs alot in there time they were ment to be a light to medium weight force like having anti tank rifles and believe it or not was a weapon they used. the weapon is called Boys anti- Tank Rifle. so asking to have a smg instead of some raiders is completely fine.

As we say to all you history buffs (i'm am one myself :) I will say this for the devs), just to make sure you got it through your head.

              BALANCE IS SUPERIOR TO HISTORICAL TRUTH
Or in international terms BALANCE>HISTORICAL FACT

Oh and we talked about the Boys, i'm not quite sure why it isn't in the vBrits, but the model and everything already exists, so we may be able to put it in (perhaps if we redo the doctrines for the RMC, which I really doubt, we can add it somewhere)