Geschutzwagen

[cephalos]

Well. This Geschürtwagen were build up on french materials.
The 21. PzDivision was destroyed in Africa and had to be rebuild and reinforced. When this Division was reorganised in France germany industry wasnt able to rearm the division so the 21. PzDiv decided to build up its own mobile weapons upon everything they could get.
So this tanks were an field improvisation by this single divisions; no general produced german tanks.
Eastern front needed a lot of tanks and Sturmgeschütze but this front was supplied by the german industry with "german stuff" and not such a field improvisation

this sounds logical... did Germans build more weapons like Gwagen? On other french chasis'?

[BurroDiablo]

16 were made on the B1 Bis chassis.


FCM 36 chassis, 105LefH Geschützwagen


FCM 36 chassis, Marder I conversion


'4,7 cm PaK(t) auf Panzerkampfwagen 35R(f) ohne Turm', R35 chassis

All I got right now

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

There is much more

3,7cm PAK on Infantry Carrier UE (F)


4,7cm PaK on Panzerjäger Lorraine-S (F)


7,5cm PaK 97/98 on PzKpfw T-26 (SOV)


5cm PAK on Munitionsschlepper


Panzerjäger Bren Carrier


7,5cm StuK on Pz 38 t


10,5cm FH 18 pn PzKpfw Mk IV (UK)


Infantry tank PzKpfw Mk II (UK) with 5cm KwK L/42


U see; there are much more "uglies" (Star wars term xDDD).

[BurroDiablo]

Knew there were more, cephalos only wanted French chassis, but it's cool to see other obscure conversion. I mean, Panzerjager Bren Carrier? Wtf?!

[cephalos]

ok, I meant all of them. Or just the most of them
some of them looks scary, and other just ugly...
but great thanks... 

[Griptonix]

Mr Defence, no offense, but since when were Hitler's decisions in the war sane?

well he almost won the war, and the effort it took to beat him would make me think he had done a few things right....

[Red_Stinger]

Mr Defence, no offense, but since when were Hitler's decisions in the war sane?

well he almost won the war, and the effort it took to beat him would make me think he had done a few things right....

German generals, and german soldiers almost won the war. Hitler did not. He was as bad as Stalin considering strategical stuff, Stalin did just have more manpower to correct his "mistake" (which is astonishing, considering also how many guy he send to death before the war  )

[Analpirat]

Mr Defence, no offense, but since when were Hitler's decisions in the war sane?

well he almost won the war, and the effort it took to beat him would make me think he had done a few things right....

a) "He" didn't come anywhere close to even "almost" win the war.
b) Doing things that you are urgently advised to do by your general staff aren't things that'd normally earn you an recommendation, but it takes a lunatic to completely ignore the entire general staff while making absolutely terrible strategic decisions.
c) Your apparent liking of nazi ideology is disturbing.
d) For these discussions I may refer you to another thread in these forums, "Why did Germany loose the War"

[Paciat]

Mr Defence, no offense, but since when were Hitler's decisions in the war sane?

well he almost won the war, and the effort it took to beat him would make me think he had done a few things right....

German generals, and german soldiers almost won the war. Hitler did not. He was as bad as Stalin considering strategical stuff, Stalin did just have more manpower to correct his "mistake" (which is astonishing, considering also how many guy he send to death before the war  )

Hitler Global politics in 1940-1942 were really bad and this was more important than his military failures.
He could have created puppet state in Ukraine (second largest republic in USRR) and then he would have 1.000.000 more allied soldiers and a reliable supply road to Stalingrad thru friendly territory.

[Blackbishop]

Guys... keep on topic! You can discuss all that stuff on Why did Germany lose on the Eastern Front? topic.

[Ltevanlee]

I have a question about the G-wagon for you guys, If it uses a PaK 40 7.5 cm gun, why can't it penetrate the frontal amour of a Sherman? I've seen it happen a million times and it dominates anything smaller than a M10.

[Paciat]

I have a question about the G-wagon for you guys, If it uses a PaK 40 7.5 cm gun, why can't it penetrate the frontal amour of a Sherman? I've seen it happen a million times and it dominates anything smaller than a M10.

Cause Shermans are awsome!!!

[cephalos]

I have a question about the G-wagon for you guys, If it uses a PaK 40 7.5 cm gun, why can't it penetrate the frontal amour of a Sherman? I've seen it happen a million times and it dominates anything smaller than a M10.

Cause Shermans are awsome!!!

[Paciat]

Im not kidding. Shermans are awsome.

[Analpirat]

I have a question about the G-wagon for you guys, If it uses a PaK 40 7.5 cm gun, why can't it penetrate the frontal amour of a Sherman? I've seen it happen a million times and it dominates anything smaller than a M10.

Because its a game and not a simulation.