Thanks to the team for the brit reward

[Mad hatters in jeans]

tbh i really do like the changes but i would argue they don't go far enough.
the doctrines for brits need a reshuffle big time, tank traps needed for defensive strategy is obvious, hell you could make it so the sappers upgrade for mine detection allows them to place tank traps?

ALso for the churchill call-in, although i like the later versions of it they're mostly window dressing and utterly pointless.
so My friend and i suggested that each churchill should have an upgrade to either flamer or AVRE for a munitions cost respective to how effective these are (up for debate for starting cost i'd say 50-100 munitions?)

That way the british armour doctrines have two slots available, where they can put in new abilities. now i know it takes a long time to skin a tank but if the option was there i would like to see the valentine tank make an appearance. Wiki suggests there was a number of different upgrades for the valentine and the brit armour doctrine really does need some decent or variable call-in armour.

And as a last part for brit armour call-in Tortoise heavy assault tank.

Brit airborne doctrine only really needs a shuffle, simply make call-in HQ glider first, tetrarch second and commandos third in the tree. (other side of tree is fine).

Then dump in tank traps ability for upgraded sappers in canadian artillery, pump up power of overwatch. counter battery seems eh idk probably should come with the arty emplacements to begin with it's not that great anyways.

[BurroDiablo]

And as a last part for brit armour call-in Tortoise heavy assault tank.

Please tell me you're joking...

[pariah]

Giving the Brits the Tortoise is a great idea, man! Maybe you guys could give them a hover tank while you're at it!

[Raider217]

Supposing that was serious 6 or so were made never saw action etc etc... very similar story to oh the Jagdtiger. >.>

On a side note id rather see another more heavily used tank be featured like the Crusader short ranged AT "panic button" unit like the LL sherman sort of but not quite on-par with a cromwell. (using MKIII 57 mm / 6 pndr and ap rounds ability of course)

[Paciat]

On a side note id rather see another more heavily used tank be featured like the Crusader short ranged AT "panic button" unit like the LL sherman sort of but not quite on-par with a cromwell.

Centurion?

Black Prince?

I think that changing RE Croc gun stats to the same as Cromwell (better area of effect, penetration and reload speed) and adding some armor will do just fine for the British.

[Zerstörer]

Supposing that was serious 6 or so were made never saw action etc etc... very similar story to oh the Jagdtiger. >.>

All Jagdtigers were incorporated into combat units and saw action.
Tortoise didn't enter service at all. Not even post war. There is no comparison.

The fact of the matter is that US/British armies didn't field tanks equivalent to Tiger/Panther in ww2. Even the Pershing was fielded for a negligible amount of time in negligible quantity. The engagements are well recorded and are barely 10. The dosen or so British Centurions ware also not incorporated and used in ww2. Both tanks do not really have a place in WW2 history.

British have the rather ludicrous,abundant and somewhat OP 17pdr which penetrates everything 100% as a pay off for not having a COH Tiger equivalent and will remain that way. Comet is....perhaps a bit better than it should be as it is

[Paciat]

British have the rather ludicrous,abundant and somewhat OP 17pdr which penetrates everything 100% as a pay off for not having a COH Tiger equivalent and will remain that way. Comet is....perhaps a bit better than it should be as it is

Thats why I only want to uparmour the Croc and raise its efectivness vs infantry (vet 3 Shrecks).

[Raider217]

My bad I was thinking of the Maus 

[Zerstörer]

I believe the Churchill has been improved vs infantry in the latest retail beta patch, so that won't be a problem@Paciat

[Mad hatters in jeans]

And as a last part for brit armour call-in Tortoise heavy assault tank.

Please tell me you're joking...

thanks for ignoring every other sentence i wrote it reflects well on you.

[pariah]

And as a last part for brit armour call-in Tortoise heavy assault tank.

Please tell me you're joking...

thanks for ignoring every other sentence i wrote it reflects well on you.

Thanks for suggesting a tank that wasn't even used in W.W.II. It reflects well on you...

[Mad hatters in jeans]

And as a last part for brit armour call-in Tortoise heavy assault tank.

Please tell me you're joking...

thanks for ignoring every other sentence i wrote it reflects well on you.

Thanks for suggesting a tank that wasn't even used in W.W.II. It reflects well on you...

okay well fine i admit it's a bad suggestion, but what about the other things i mentioned.

or if you like i can send back sarcastic replies to you the same way a teenager would.

[Blackbishop]

Currently, Commonwealth's Doctrines won't be redesigned. Relic is improving CoH factions, let's hope they fix all the stuff you pointed out.

For tank traps, if Relic doesn't add them, it's likely they won't be added by the EF team, but i have to agree that sounds good if sappers upgraded with mine detector and under RES doctrine could build them.

As for those new tanks... valentine could replace the cromwell but we haven't that model and for now we're focusing on ostheer and soviets/RMC balance.