End Violent Videogames?!?

[IJoe]

haha, I always thought that drunken people look and behave like zombies... 
I mean if somebody can't see the difference between real world and this ingame should go to psychiatrist.

Well, most infants can't tell the difference between a thumb and a titt. Where should they go? OK, that's a joke.
But really, I thought we're talking 'bout kids here - people with underformed and somewhat mobile psychics. You know, when I was like 10 y.o. I remember, how some silly stories scared the shit out of me, and I would have real nightmares that night. And my psychics is considered to be stable.

[pariah]

haha, I always thought that drunken people look and behave like zombies... 
I mean if somebody can't see the difference between real world and this ingame should go to psychiatrist.

YES! That's the point i often try to bring up in this debate; The people who want these games banned or censored obviously don't know the difference between games and real life, so in fact THEY are the ones with the problem!

[Raider217]

Actually, that's not quite the way it went;

Aliens Versus Predator (2010) was initially banned, but when Rebellion appealed the ban was lifted about a week later, since it was a science-fiction setting.

Left 4 Dead 2, however, is quite a sad story; It was also initially banned, but Valve decided to censor it, which is bad enough as it is. But the things the Australian governmet made them remove were nothing short of ludicrous. Such as cutting out the police (i think they were riot police), because it's violence against 'authority figures', which is wrong on so many levels. For starters, they are fucking ZOMBIES, you idiots! They are NOT people! The do NOT want to give you a parking ticket! They just want to eat your brain (or something of the like)! Furthermore, making them cut it out on the grounds of violence against police is VERY hypocritical, since games such as the Grand Theft Auto series are allowed without alter, which feature the killing of police (as well as innocent civilians). In fact, you could argure that Grand Theft Auto is worse, because you are killing simulations of real people, rather than zombies.

So, in short: The Australian government are fuckwits.

Hence why some of us managed to get it from places such as Indonesia and the UK... cough

[pariah]

Yes, that's what a lot of people do, but it's very hard to order something from another country without an Internet connection.

But Indonesia, though? Wouldn't it be best to get it from an English county?

[Raider217]

I got it from UK but a friend of mine who goes to Indonesia often decided to get it whilst he was over there as he didnt want the censored version either

[cephalos]

I wonder how looks the censored version of L4D2...

OMG LOL
Left 4 Dead 2 - Censor Comparison L4D2

[Pauly3]

in germany we have pretty strict laws but sometimes it doesnt seem logic how the government (or the organisation who does the testing which is industry funded) does it
LfD for example isnt censorred at all but other games which are way less brutal are cut or banned for minors
most brutal games have an 18 rating so no one under this age can buy them
i think it works fine enough
i have played my first FPS with 16 i think thats a good age

[Tico_1990]

If it passes, it could severely harm the indusrtry. If a total No-games ban passed, it would be the end of an industrty.

No offense, but you do realise that there are other countries/places aside from the USA where we have PC's and consoles capable of running these games and that a bann passed in the USA does not mean that the bann is for each and other country.

On topic:
Walking into a school and shooting up people and blaming it on a video games means 1 out of 2 things:
1: you are going for the insanity plea
2: you are actually not sane and can't differentiate

Either way, it's not the games fault, but rather has to do with your biology or upbringing, hence, banning games isn't the right solution. Furthermore, studies have not proven that playing violent games makes you violent. A rise in hormones such as adrenaline are seen in similar amounts while playing sports, watching films, and seeing accidents.
To put it bluntly, there is not a decent argument to bann violent games.

This is however not to say that there shouldn't be age restrictions for certain games.

[TacticalNuke]

If it passes, it could severely harm the indusrtry. If a total No-games ban passed, it would be the end of an industrty.

No offense, but you do realise that there are other countries/places aside from the USA where we have PC's and consoles capable of running these games and that a bann passed in the USA does not mean that the bann is for each and other country.

Yes I did realize that. But as it is the U.S. that is considering the ban, this only represents the industry in the U.S. 
I am also strangely glad that my topic reached over 100 views and 22 post! Yay!

[Tico_1990]

If it passes, it could severely harm the indusrtry. If a total No-games ban passed, it would be the end of an industrty.

No offense, but you do realise that there are other countries/places aside from the USA where we have PC's and consoles capable of running these games and that a bann passed in the USA does not mean that the bann is for each and other country.

Yes I did realize that. But as it is the U.S. that is considering the ban, this only represents the industry in the U.S. 
I am also strangely glad that my topic reached over 100 views and 22 post! Yay!

Ok, just checking and congrats;)

[Pauly3]

The "coolest" Cut in Germany is in World in Conflict
The NUKE is named BFG in the german version, but it looks just like a nuclear attack....also the Napalm-Strike is named Anti Vegetation Strike but it is actually the old Napalm Attack
so stupid...

[Tampio]

I think that if someone would seriously dismember someone with a Chainsaw or commit another serious crime like that, belongs to a ''Nuthouse''. No clear minded human would do something like that, unless something has ''snapped'' in that persons mind.

[pariah]

Yeah, but surely it's O.K. to go on a killing spree when you're bored? Right?...

[IJoe]

I think that if someone would seriously dismember someone with a Chainsaw or commit another serious crime like that, belongs to a ''Nuthouse''. No clear minded human would do something like that, unless something has ''snapped'' in that persons mind.

Well, lets make some pedophilic scenes in games now. I mean, it could well suit some in-game scenarios. And that, still, would be just a game, right?
Just a joke (not a real suggestion).

[pariah]

There already is, man... Have you not heard of Rape-Lay?