End Violent Videogames?!?

[pariah]

Yeah, and also these recent Dead Space 2 ads, which i think are harming gaming more than anything else...

[Analpirat]

Yeah, and I think the worst part is that they(the Dead Space 2 ads) are directed at minors. I mean the game is rated mature, what do people 18+ care what their mom thinks of the games they're playing?

[Akalonor]

I hate the Dead Space series, its just one of those games thats too much, there is a line where the gore and violence is acceptable and is just too much, this game is one of those on that line, its not violent video games thats the problem, its these companies that make them,
 they can put whatever they damn well please in a game, they could put a fountain of blood come out of someones neck when they're beheaded, this is what causes the problem.

[cephalos]

funny thing, I actually can't wait to play DS2. I've played DS1, and I enjoyed it. Using my example can be useful - I just tolerate games I'd like to play, and I don't see anything scary in them. I haven't play Manhunt, so I can't agree with things you do there... Actually I wonder if I play Manhunt, I could change my mind. It's all in us, we decide what we call too much and what will be at the end of this line.

[Raider217]

Well the other problem is that some developers/publishers will actually go out of their way to be controversial, the most recent one that I can recall would be Call Of Duty : Modern Warfare 2 with it's "No Russian" level. So I will just focus on this one as an example but before I do.

I am not having a go at COD fans and have not played the game myself as I prefer more how can I put this... 'challenging' games such as ARMA II, but I have looked into the MW2 issue.

Why is Infinity Ward's No Russian level controversial? The simple answer to that question would be, that it didn't need to be there.

What it did not do : Further the plot in a substantial way.

What it did do : Provided extra publicity for the product. Due to human nature because it was controversial and gained more publicity more profits where made as it was like the "car crash"* effect. More younger people will have bought it just because it was controversial.

The level was also skippable further proof if you will that it was put in just for controversy, as if it was significant to the game plot it would not have been skippable.

* Car Crash Effect : When you go past a road traffic accident (RTA) you can't help but look basically.

Now what does all that above have to do with this thread? I'm just trying to point out that some developers/publishers are not exactly helping their corner with stuff like that.

Regards Hawk (Silk)

I would like to add to that as CoD's most recent unneccessary edition Black ops has its own controversies with the killing of a Fidel Castro double (major political figure in Cuba for those who dont know).

It is unfortunate that recent game titles are having to turn to these tactics to gain attention and sales coupled with the fact that I and the people I usually talk with agree that the quality and well.. fun factor has been dipping of late seeming that the designers (not all however mind you) spend more on advertising than pleasing loyal fans and customers.

[pariah]

I honestly don't get what's so controversial about killing famous people... It's just that it's so inconsistent, you know?

[Raider217]

It depends upon the person Mercenaries 2 had issues as they were accused of spreading government propanganda to support the invasion of Venezuela and thats not even a person is it . However Hugo Chavez is >.>

Here's and interesting quote for you:

-Gunnar Gundersen, cofounder of the Venezuela Solidarity Network, dismissed arguments that it's "just a game", saying.

-We have to put it in the context of how it would feel if the reverse was done. Can you imagine if a wealthy Venezuelan game-designing company with links to the military and funding from a famous Latin American entertainer invented a game where you invade the US to assassinate the president and take over the economy?

Funnily enough thats (almost) exactly what happens in Homefront... AND ITS MADE BY AMERICANS.

[IJoe]

@Raider217
Yeah, but IT'S MADE BY AMERICANS.
Get the point?

ADDON:
And, after all,  "The world is a theatre, and people are actors".
So "What is this life? - A game."

[Raider217]

@IJoe

I understand it's not really the same circumstances but from the point of being invaded themselves in a game (made by one of their own companies at least) it poses no issue as for by another countries producer you need only look at say Ubisoft (French) in Endwar you invade American major cities as EU and Russia at will.

[Akalonor]

I actually started thinking of endwar when I read the post before yours raider ^.^
Something like that is on a more Global scale, and made after a book, not made from one country to the next for no reason or source.

[My Name Is Ante]

@Raider217
Yeah, but IT'S MADE BY ACTIVISIONS.
Get the point?

Fix'd..
They are beyond evil...

[Analpirat]

on the point of activision and violent games:
http://www.vg247.com/2011/01/25/russian-media-points-to-modern-warfare-2-over-airport-bombing/

[pariah]

Oh, yeah, because firing a machine gun is exactly like detonating a bomb. 

[Blackbishop]

Oh, yeah, because firing a machine gun is exactly like detonating a bomb. 

That was exactly what i thought.

[Raider217]

Wow I had heard of the bomb attack but not of the finger pointing at CoD, pure (unlucky) coincidence in my opinion. 

And of course condolences to those lost or injured.