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Offline GeneralDeath

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what i think about Soviets
« on: December 15, 2010, 10:12:33 PM »
first they had the best snipers that were indeed the best in the war. So why cant they "Sneak" a camo that makes it where they cant fire but are camoed so they cant be seen when your setting up a ambush. freaking retarded how i have to get behind cover so i can shoot. if they could sneak i wont have to worry so much about getting to cover, that way i can set my traps like normal instead of having them get nocked out before i can get to my objective. Same goes with Tank Hunters.

take it the way ya want i just want to put the "Sneak" idea out there.

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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 10:18:23 PM »
Snipers and Tank Hunters will never get a "sneak" ability like US and Wehr snipers, deal with it; however some changes have been commited to them on the patch 1.30.
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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 01:13:44 AM »
Generaldeaths question is simply why? Is the handicap for Balance, historical accuracy, technical issue or some other reason?  It doesn't really matter or change anything for me personally, but many of us are curious to know details about some of the units in your game, makes it more fun IMO to find out some of this info.  The rants about features that an indivdual dislikes are uncalled for IMO, enjoy the product and appreciate the work of the developers.  Offering constructive ideas is expected, but they cant all be used.  If you are not having fun playing Coh, then you are most likely the problem(operator error) not the game.

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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 11:18:33 PM »
The Sharpshooter Team has a different way of concealing for a number of reasons. Firstly we wanted them to 'feel' different to the standard US sniper. Secondly we have the issue of balance because they already have two men and Light Artillery.

However, I believe the Sniper Ace doctrine unit has a Sneak ability.

The Sharpshooter Teams are generally made to be a much more defensive unit, which plays to the lack of other defensive units such as HMG Teams.

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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 11:55:17 PM »
They are actually stronger than normal Snipers since they have 2 men.  I'd prefer fighting against Boogeyman any day than face these guys.  Put them in a house and it will be a killing spree.

Also, in a close / fast paced match, there's a very very high possibility Hans reveals his position to shoot the spotter instead, spelling his doom.  Think Enemy at the Gates, Konig keeps shooting the useless guy!  In a fast game, its very hard to take the time to tell who's who, and for some reason the spotters have this exact tendency to keep revealing themselves as bait to get shot while the actual sniper stays hidden for the countersnipe.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2010, 12:02:57 AM by Chancellor »

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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 02:29:48 AM »
Thank you for the replys that really helps since can't give up on using tank hunters and sharp shooters early game just one more thing to add so do tank hunters gain there first shot bonus while in buildings? Just to get an idea of the best tatic to use them for. (I blam the lack of description but I'm not complaining) over all loving the mod.

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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 08:13:19 AM »
As it stands, THs and sharpshooters automatically cloak in cover like fallschirmjaeger. Unlike falls, they don't have a first strike bonus atm. Sharpshooters are a very strong unit, so having free reign to move about unnoticed is too good. It is also for variety's sake and I think it works well.
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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 05:19:06 PM »
As it stands, THs and sharpshooters automatically cloak in cover like fallschirmjaeger. Unlike falls, they don't have a first strike bonus atm. Sharpshooters are a very strong unit, so having free reign to move about unnoticed is too good. It is also for variety's sake and I think it works well.
I think they are fine without the first strike bonus(one-shots soldiers after all, in most of the cases).
« Last Edit: December 17, 2010, 05:23:42 PM by blackbishop »
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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 01:31:40 AM »
I was responding directly to GeneralDeath about his building question. It does indeed work very well currently.
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Re: what i think about Soviets
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 12:22:22 PM »
i wanderin when came out the next path 1,3 couse the germans have all