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Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« on: November 29, 2010, 04:24:38 PM »
With all the best-of friends, i thaught it would be cool to have a "Worst-Of" Thread!

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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2010, 04:28:12 PM »
I don't know the French MAS-36, but I'm sure that our Carcano '91 was one of the worst. Unreliable and often it gets stuck  :(

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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2010, 04:28:58 PM »
I picked the Japan one, very outdated for its time.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2010, 06:05:07 PM »
I picked the French one, France seems to have lost every war they were involved in, so their equipment gotta suck too.

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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2010, 06:13:43 PM »
I picked the French one, France seems to have lost every war they were involved in, so their equipment gotta suck too.

France had a rather bad high officer corps, before and after napoleon. Their equipment are generally good, except the artillery of franco-prussian war of 1870 ^^

The MAS-36 isnt that bad, but isnt the best rifle ever! But it has a nice thing: soldiers who are going to surrender can easily definitly broke the gun, making it useless for the ennemy  ;D ;D
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2010, 08:10:16 PM »
But it has a nice thing: soldiers who are going to surrender can easily definitly broke the gun, making it useless for the ennemy  ;D ;D

Was that feature actually a part of design?  :o
I mean, it's rather strange to actually plan such things as surrender.
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2010, 08:42:10 PM »
But it has a nice thing: soldiers who are going to surrender can easily definitly broke the gun, making it useless for the ennemy  ;D ;D

Was that feature actually a part of design?  :o
I mean, it's rather strange to actually plan such things as surrender.

That feature was part of design: a soldier can neutralize 2 rifle by facing them. Then, he have to thread each gun in the baionet's tube (below the barrel) of the other one. It take about some second, useful if the ennemy is surrounding you.

But young conscript liked to broke all their gun by that way (  ;D ), so post-war rifles were issued with some small holes in baionet's receptacle, so military gunsmith can repare them.
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2010, 08:54:05 PM »
No wander, that mr Coluche said that about the rooster.  ;D
Just kidding.

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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2010, 09:11:15 PM »
No wander, that mr Coluche said that about the rooster.  ;D
Just kidding.


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I just lol'ed so hard.
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2010, 09:37:46 PM »
i wonder who voted Kar-98k.
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2010, 10:24:55 PM »
Actually, the MAS-36 was quite inovative. I'm not sure of its actually performance, but was designed from lessons learned from the Lebel and Berthier.
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 02:23:45 AM »
Bolt action rifles weren't to much important on the battlefield. In good armies the normal soldier is only needed as support and ammunition carrier for the machine gun. So in combat you have to only to prevent flanking and to provide ammunition to the machine guns which fire from the flanks.

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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2010, 02:37:05 AM »
Bolt action rifles weren't to much important on the battlefield. In good armies the normal soldier is only needed as support and ammunition carrier for the machine gun. So in combat you have to only to prevent flanking and to provide ammunition to the machine guns which fire from the flanks.
One word, sniper...
And these guys:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4
If snipers weren't important and didn't make much of a difference, then I'm not sure what would. And they used bolt-actions (mostly)
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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2010, 08:00:42 AM »
Bolt action rifles weren't to much important on the battlefield. In good armies the normal soldier is only needed as support and ammunition carrier for the machine gun. So in combat you have to only to prevent flanking and to provide ammunition to the machine guns which fire from the flanks.
One word, sniper...
I wouldnt say that snipers are important in an army. US and UK armies had 2 men spotter squads instead. In an urban warfare and in most situations solidiers didnt need scopes, normal sights gave them enough accuracy.
"weren't to much important on the battlefield" - depends what do you call a battlefield. Snipers should actually stay away from big battles and shoot at the enemy when he least expects it.

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Re: Worst-Of WW2 Weapons:Common Bolt-Action Rifles.
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2011, 06:34:18 PM »
I don't know the French MAS-36, but I'm sure that our Carcano '91 was one of the worst. Unreliable and often it gets stuck  :(
I'm sure Lee Harvey Oswald would disagree, thats the rifle that killed Kennedy!
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