Tank marshalls & Generals

[maxi1991]

[Seeme]

What about Mr.Mustache there?

[maxi1991]

What about Mr.Mustache there?

It's my favourite and in my opinion the coolest soviet general.
Oka Gorodovikov(posted his name a bit eralier in this thread.

[Seeme]

Ah ok. Got any information then?

[Sturmovik]

I will see you on place all those generals ... You could say - i will never bet on you on that place. Becouse you are arrogant.
...

You might want to rephrase that. It makes no sense in English.

Difficalt to phrase my opinion.
It's about mentaliti diference.

Second attempt.
You on the place of one of those generals - is a fact will not so expirienced, professional ... it is rediculous, that you do not know about his part for the victory, but laughing for his face & exterrior.

[SK8ERatWAR]

dude, don't take this too serious, i'm not whining about dutch generals should be getting the attention they deserve either.. no because most of them were insignificant for the world war 2 history. Like most of those russian generals, they fought with great valor ofcourse, but they are not important to us, that's why we make jokes.. just take it easy and find a russian forum about russian generals to talk about how great some of these men were.. 

[Paciat]

You on the place of one of those generals - is a fact will not so expirienced, professional ... it is rediculous, that you do not know about his part for the victory, but laughing for his face & exterrior.

Its not rediculous to lough at a rediculous face.

[Sturmovik]

OK. Misunderstanding.
Be patient please, I'm russian, and our WW2 hystory is my personal feeling. Understand this please. One of those reason - many of my grand & grand fathers fight, many of them do not returned. They spend they lives during most hard & bloody years of war. Eastern Ukraina, Leningrad, Kursk, ... 1942, 1943.
I'm not so patient when someone lought for our hystory. It's for my legacy.
May be i'm don't understand you so clear. Sorry.

[SK8ERatWAR]

OK. Misunderstanding.
Be patient please, I'm russian, and our WW2 hystory is my personal feeling. Understand this please. One of those reason - many of my grand & grand fathers fight, many of them do not returned. They spend they lives during most hard & bloody years of war. Eastern Ukraina, Leningrad, Kursk, ... 1942, 1943.
I'm not so patient when someone lought for our hystory. It's for my legacy.
May be i'm don't understand you so clear. Sorry.

It's good to keep the memory of our grandfathers and the horrible things happened in WW2. It seems you are a very patriotic man, that's not bad either, but it seems like you're forcing us to have the same feelings about YOUR personal WW2 history.. If I met a WW2 veteran in real life I would do anything for that man whatever he would ask, i'd give great respect to him. But pictures are meaningless without some background history about that general..
Do you understand what i mean?

[Sturmovik]

Yes, understand.
But i'm not forcing you ... about my history. It's deeper social problem. Not only my, on my opinion.
In my country, all "translated" history books is about Africa, Normandy & sea battles, ... except one or two about stalingrad & kursk with skin-deep view. It's look like no one foreiner is interested for eastern front grand battles, where nazi forces grind, milling for 4 years. Land-lease, ocean scale battles is much more extencive theme of western WW2 part of history.
Try to explain.
Hard to know, that our grandparents fight & die ... for our country only. Recieve it, like they are not fighting together.

Your & your collective work is small, but important part, for allied history. This year, on Red Square, 9 of may has been parade soviet (russian) army & all allied army representatives. It was special feeling.

With good sense.

[Seeme]

Is this person mad that I called him mustache?

Anyway I had a Grandfather who died somewhere West of Warsaw(Or near Leningrad, One of those) and when some Of my Classmates learn WW2 they completely forget about the Red army and every time that happens I feel they are disrespecting my Grand Father. So I know how you feel.

Though if you really want to know something that gets on my nerves, its those US history Books that talk about WW2...

[SK8ERatWAR]

Well i think i can speak for all of us on this forum, that we're very interested in the great patriotic war! because we downloaded this mod ;p but i'm not disrespecting or anything, i have great respect for those who fought. And i can get your point about books of the eastern front, Here in Holland you can only find books about market garden, D-day and the pacific, HOWEVER, i did find a book about the battle of leningrad, well it's not only about the eastern front, but half of the book covers leningrad i think.

[Paciat]

Though if you really want to know something that gets on my nerves, its those US history Books that talk about WW2...

I can say the same (or worst) thing about Soviet history books.
Too litle (or nothing) is said about Molotov–Ribbentrop pact, about the occupation of 51% of Polands land in 1939-41.

But what really gets on my nerves is that history books say little about how WWII was the reason of Commonwealth empire to fall apart. India was the second most populated "country" in those days...
Its also wierd that allmost no book sais that WWII started in 1937 with Japanese-Chinise war and that China had a civil war back then. China was the most populated country in those days...

Thats probably becouse WWII was an economic war and factories (mostly US) won the war.
"No bastard won the war by dieing for his country."

[cephalos]

Though if you really want to know something that gets on my nerves, its those US history Books that talk about WW2...

I can say the same (or worst) thing about Soviet history books.
Too litle (or nothing) is said about Molotov–Ribbentrop pact, about the occupation of 51% of Polands land in 1939-41.

Or about Katyn...

[Paciat]

Though if you really want to know something that gets on my nerves, its those US history Books that talk about WW2...

I can say the same (or worst) thing about Soviet history books.
Too litle (or nothing) is said about Molotov–Ribbentrop pact, about the occupation of 51% of Polands land in 1939-41.

Or about Katyn...

Katyn (mass murder of Polish intelligence by the Soviets) is the result of Soviet occupation and the Soviet occupation is the result of Molotov–Ribbentrop pact. Soviet occupation of Viborg (second biggest Finlands city) and Moldavia (part of Romania) in 1940-41 are also results of that pact.