How To Stop A Swarm Of Soviet Troops?

[Cranialwizard]

HMG42s are a pretty good solution but you've got to be careful if there are more than 2 squads in different directions. I use the work around tactic often. Keep 2 HMGS in buildings, and make sure they target the correct squads, or it could be lethal!

The workaround to this is to sacrifice a unit for a small amount of time, leaving it pinned to the HMG as a distraction, to get another squad to crawl around and get on the other side of the building, and open fire. If the HMG switches to combat that new squad, your sacrificed squad (If it's still alive, hopefully) can open fire, and play tag.

[Spieel]

^^ If the first squad is pinned it might take awhile before it fires, giving the mg enough time to target and suppress the second squad, giving supporting squads enough time to help out. When I flank I try to do it with at least three squads from different directions.

[Graybucket]

Spieel has a very good strategy there.

In fact, a very good defense is offense. (General Patton's line)

I think properly-placed MGs and Mortars might do the job to pin the Ruskies, once they're pinned or busy shooting at your static defense positions, you could flank the attacking force with a platoon of infantry or maybe some 3 PzIVs or Infantry w/Stug III/IV might clear them all out. And on top of that, a swarm of Soviet Infantry can't be defeated just by flanking. Your flanking force might get flanked or pinned in too by Soviet positions behind the Soviets.Ready some troops to attack their lightly-guarded HQ.

[irik]

As Panzer Elite, I always pick Luftwaffe Tactics. The first thing you should get from this Company Commander is Luftwaffe Soldiers. I've heard from others that Gewehr 43s are bad. It's true MP44s are better, but at least G43s are not bad. The Luftwaffe Soldiers should be used to take on large squads, since Luftwaffe soldiers are large for a Panzer Elite squad. Consider building the Flak 38 gun, but at the centers of the map.

[tpcoughlin]

Spieel is on the right track. Here is my generic Kampf Gruppe counter to a horde: During your capping operations identify likely kill zones; for our purposes  a kill zone needs only impede movement a little. LW and SE can create a kill zone with a little barbed wire placed here and there as they shuttle back and forth in their capping operations. Three or four sections of bw is enough but a natural choke point is better. TD needs must rely on a mobile defense. When you see the wave approaching withdraw to a defense point beyond the KZ from the enemy. If the Sovs don't want to cooperate draw em in with kettengrad bait, (any high priority unit will do. Just don't engage). Meanwhile concentrate any available units on the DP, (drag and Rt Click). DF squads with suppression are the priority choice. I like to have two IHTs w PG in my OB for this purpose. Concentrate fire on one squad at a time, (Rt Click movement order). when the first squad is supressed concentrate on the next squad. Toss in a grenade or incendiary round. repeat. as the skirmish dies down  withdraw units and concentrate them towards your next objective. It doesn't have to take a lot of units to stall a wave attack. With the right mix you can annihilate it. If you also have your muni HT in range you can watch the CP meter spin and pile up lots of veterancy for very few mps. I believe when properly executed this tactic perfectly illustrates Sun Tzu's principle of "Dead Ground", in the Fifth Century BC classic ART of War. By the way what are the bonuses applying to a Vet 3 muni HT?

Camrade Sturmovic's Observations are in the main correct. Der Kampf Gruppe seldom has the time to build extensive strong points though. With TD none. No human player is going to make a frontal assault on a fully prepared  defensive position anyway. The comments about diversions is true in both AI and MP play. Don't be loathe to redeploy before you annihilate a Swarm.

The comment was made somewhere in this thread about Goliath's, Probably by a WM groundslogger. I normally only deploy the vampire HT when I have a heavy duty demolitions job. Have any of you Kampf Gruppers figured out how to use it ?

I propose to liven up this thread a little. How do you stop a swarm of unsuppressible Strelky Guards and Ingenery?

[Tankbuster]

With Khorne Berzerkers.
Seriously, Micromanage ACs ang they will pick off the guards/strelky/ingenery.