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Offline polkovnik

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[1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« on: August 15, 2010, 08:37:32 PM »
Hi all,
first: thanks a lot for this mod.
But I think that the ammo upkeep weakens the soviets way too much. In 1.22 you added ammo costs for IL-2 and God of war. PPS-43 for command squad now costs 100 munition. Every upgrade does cost munition, either for Strelky, flame throwers for engineers, ...
E.g. on Cottbus in a balanced situation you get 20 munition income as soviet player. All that income is spent with medic truck, 2 mortar + 2 AT guns. After that you can't tech up any more.
My suggestion: Soviets cannot secure resource points, that's why they don't need resources for abilities like throwing grenades. Just either drop that upkeep idea completely or at least drop it for light tanks and units like  mortar, AT gun, medic truck, ... and cut it at least in half for medium and heavy tanks.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2010, 09:16:16 PM »
They can secure points, try building outposts. Plus, the use of abilities doesn't cost them anything. As far as I know, unless you expect to be able to make all the upgrades easily, spam abilities and mines, there is never any shortage of ammo.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2010, 09:44:22 PM »
There is a shortage of ammo if you compstomp and wait one hour till you attack the enemy with the entire army ^^
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2010, 10:41:39 PM »
I remember when people were complaining about to much muni...
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2010, 11:15:35 PM »
Quote from: Seeme on August 15, 2010, 10:41:39 PM
I remember when people were complaining about to much muni...
lol :P...
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2010, 11:34:32 PM »
Quote from: blackbishop on August 15, 2010, 11:15:35 PM
Quote from: Seeme on August 15, 2010, 10:41:39 PM
I remember when people were complaining about to much muni...
lol :P...
Double lol. :D
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 05:02:28 AM »
I loled at the mention of Cottbus.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 03:05:21 PM »
Quote from: GodlikeDennis on August 16, 2010, 05:02:28 AM
I loled at the mention of Cottbus.
Actually I do like that map, even that it is short concerning munition points.
Ok, thx, I didn't know that outposts can be used to secure resources. That helps.
But still with the recent changes I'm short on munition when playing soviet. There would be neither enough munition left for running God of War nor IL-2 bombing.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 03:08:55 PM »
That's the point. The super weapon strikes are supposed to cost you. It was stupid before when they didn't cost anything. Now you have to be like the other factions and decide between weapon upgrades or devastating callin strikes.

Not that GoW is devastating in any way...
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 06:31:38 PM »
Cottbus is a typical barricade-waitforanhour-attackwithentirearmy-map.
I'm not surprised that you don't have enough munition by playing this gamestyle.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 12:25:02 AM »
For me, cottbus is a deathtrap for my enemy.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 12:57:09 PM »
Quote from: GodlikeDennis on August 16, 2010, 03:08:55 PM
Not that GoW is devastating in any way...
+1
:P yeah something needs to be done about it
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2010, 03:08:24 PM »
Dose it fire where moment is? I swear that God of war was trying to follow my sniper and trying to kill it,Its about the most useless abitly there.
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2010, 03:34:51 PM »
Funny coz GoW seems to hate my Katyushas :(
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Re: [1.20 ff.] soviet ammo upkeep discussion
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2010, 03:37:30 PM »
It seems to attack use more rather then the enemy
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