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Offline Desert_Fox

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[1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« on: July 31, 2010, 10:16:42 PM »
Premise:

Very good work  :)

But I have some doubts about two units fixed with this new patch: The P-47 Strafe Raid and the German Goliath.

I think these two units are the best anti-infantry spam of CoH.

- With P-47 you can counter Grenadier spam or PE infantry blobs;
The surprise factor of the P-47 is crucial to stop groups of German infantry (maybe with Vet.) and so, why you give it the red smoke and a delay of action?
With it, the German player has all the time to avoid the P-47 attack and this is the end of Allies. :(
Personally, I often use the P-47 Strafe in 1v1/2v2 game and and this change would penalize me.
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- Goliath is the best way to send to hell the british's infantry blob and the american rifleman's spam thank to the camouflage.

Now, I don't understand in changelog if Goliath can't camouflage or It can but can be discovered if the enemy is near.
If he can't, I don't think is a good idea because Goliath is one of main ideas to kill british inf. spam, especially with PE.

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Re: [1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2010, 11:21:58 PM »
If it was up to me, I would give this patch a big -1 when they tweeked the fractions. It seems like Germans are waaay more more op now. I hate that Goliaths cant camo, now they die instanly and are useless for anything that involes the enemy.

Hes right about both of these, it seems you only helped the germans get better.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: [1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2010, 11:54:03 PM »
How does the nerf to the Goliath make the Axis factions stronger?


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Re: [1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 12:24:05 AM »
If it was up to me, I would give this patch a big -1 when they tweeked the fractions. It seems like Germans are waaay more more op now. I hate that Goliaths cant camo, now they die instanly and are useless for anything that involes the enemy.

Hes right about both of these, it seems you only helped the germans get better.
Wehrmacht Pios, PAKs and bunkers got nerfed. PE worries me more.
US BARs can suppress MP44 squads and than the cheap PE muni HT wont help them. Russians can try to defend themselves too. UK can do nothing. Theyre sniper shot wont help becouse PE muni HT will reinforce quickly. Firepower of BREN squad = 2/3 of a BAR squad and MP44 kill Brits as fast as Americans.
Also US got some neet swap units while Comet is to ugly to use.

In other words PE got a buff vs UK while it needed a buff vs US.

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Re: [1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 12:53:55 AM »
In other words PE got a buff vs UK while it needed a buff vs US.
In other words UK didn't have a buff/tweak. I agree that UK needs some love from Devs too ;).
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Re: [1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 01:39:30 AM »
In other words PE got a buff vs UK while it needed a buff vs US.
In other words UK didn't have a buff/tweak. I agree that UK needs some love from Devs too ;).

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Re: [1.20] P-47 & Goliath
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 01:53:23 AM »
If you decide to give the British some love, than do it in away so they become more interesting to play against.