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Wheeled DShK HMG
« on: July 29, 2010, 06:00:42 PM »
Hello to all of you, I just joined, and i must say this is one fantastic mod here  :)

Anyways I am writing because I've got a suggestion for a Soviet HMG team.

I have been thinking about a DShK Machine gun mounted on a little wheel kart with a seat for the gunner which can be towed around like an AT-gun, like the real ones they used.

Note: I do know that there's a bug in the engine that might influence your opinions on crew-served Soviet weapons.

Best regards, Skykid93 :)

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2010, 06:36:04 PM »
Soviets don't need an MG.
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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2010, 07:47:11 PM »
Soviets don't need an MG.

Maybe as a Reward unit for mortar, but They don't need a buildable MG

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 07:59:45 PM »
yeah a suppression weapon coupled with the doom mortar may be a little to much... expensive to do but still overwellming infantry death.

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 11:55:50 PM »
Yeah, i though that the morter + hmg would make it op, just a suggestion though :P

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2010, 12:20:29 AM »
ALso, the devs have animation problems with the 'Gun Carriage' HMG, and they don't want to use the Tripod System, and they do have Bi-pod DP-28s for Strelky...

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2010, 12:22:51 AM »
I didn't know this, but like i said, the real DShK was "towed" like an AT-gun with a seat for the gunner, but that'll probally lead to another animation problem

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 10:29:43 PM »
I know it might be OP but still an HMG is kinda essential in holding a defensive position.  And i don't like that the mg that you can build when you select prop war doc, has a pop of 3 even after costing so much and being doctrine specific.  I mean it's not that strong defensively or offensively nor does it suppress that fast. 
« Last Edit: August 04, 2010, 10:31:45 PM by Kohler7 »

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 10:57:48 PM »
I didn't know this, but like i said, the real DShK was "towed" like an AT-gun with a seat for the gunner, but that'll probally lead to another animation problem
Good idea. :D
A Soviet MG could be towed. No retreat, small arc of fire (or not), last 2 crew members die at the same time, they cant garrison buildings.
This kind of swap for a MG dugouts wouldnt be OP.

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 11:05:53 PM »
I didn't know this, but like i said, the real DShK was "towed" like an AT-gun with a seat for the gunner, but that'll probally lead to another animation problem
Good idea. :D
A Soviet MG could be towed. No retreat, small arc of fire (or not), last 2 crew members die at the same time, they cant garrison buildings.
This kind of swap for a MG dugouts wouldnt be OP.
+1.

Towed MG wouldn't be OP. It'd be quite easy to animate, basically a HMG mountedon the chassis of a 57mm. :P

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 11:23:03 PM »
I didn't know this, but like i said, the real DShK was "towed" like an AT-gun with a seat for the gunner, but that'll probally lead to another animation problem
Good idea. :D
A Soviet MG could be towed. No retreat, small arc of fire (or not), last 2 crew members die at the same time, they cant garrison buildings.
This kind of swap for a MG dugouts wouldnt be OP.
+1.

Towed MG wouldn't be OP. It'd be quite easy to animate, basically a HMG mountedon the chassis of a 57mm. :P
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I think that Propaganda could benefit of this!! when you choose Impenetrable Defense, you will be able to deploy these guns!! Their defensive bunkers could use this "new" HMG instead :P...
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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 12:50:54 PM »
I could think of making them a reward unit replacing the ability of double flamers (sniper ace/patistanz could be a option to). But i wouldnt make it available to prop. or tank doc. they are powerfull enough, in my opinion urban is a little weaker. So u get this call in unit (there could be a max of units on map like 2 or 3). And its as powerfull as the flamers making it depending on the strategie of the player (wich actually is the sense of the rewardunits), so either mgs or flamers...

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 03:54:47 PM »
I didn't know this, but like i said, the real DShK was "towed" like an AT-gun with a seat for the gunner, but that'll probally lead to another animation problem
Good idea. :D
A Soviet MG could be towed. No retreat, small arc of fire (or not), last 2 crew members die at the same time, they cant garrison buildings.
This kind of swap for a MG dugouts wouldnt be OP.

That's exactly what I was thinking :D Also a small arc of fire would make sense for the sake of balance, it would be very powerful (since it's a 12,7x108mm), have long range and a slow rate of fire, but would be easy to flank due to a small arc of fire, it could also take slightly longer to deploy to make it easier to flank :)

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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2010, 02:25:42 PM »
I think a MG for the Russians is a good idea, and if possible, should be included in it
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Re: Wheeled DShK HMG
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2010, 05:26:29 PM »
Urban is not UP at all, sniper ace is great and paristans are epic.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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