Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH

[Ghost]

Several other French and Polish tanks were also used as a conversion base for the Marder I, including the Hotchkiss H39 [...]

the geschützwagen is the hotchkiss-based version of the marder I (so first and third one would be right  )

the nashorn (hornisse) is a completely different unit:

marder: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marder_I picture under "development"
nashorn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashorn

[GamblerSK]

i think they called it just because its whole name is to long its 7.5cm PaK 40(Sf) auf Geschützwagen 39H(f) so they called it Geschutzwagen

[One-eye]

  Ahh, cheers everyone for sorting that out.

Ok, so what was Rizz meaning about the Nashorn already being included for the wh, that's what confused me to start with?

[luz777]

Maybe its coming as the second Wehr reward unit?

Not seen a live feed for a while so have probably missed any newer announcements since the Jagdtiger etc.

Aye, Nashorn is basically a Hummel made for anti-tank purposes rather than mobile arty.

Cheers

[One-eye]

Maybe its coming as the second Wehr reward unit?

Not seen a live feed for a while so have probably missed any newer announcements since the Jagdtiger etc.

Aye, Nashorn is basically a Hummel made for anti-tank purposes rather than mobile arty.

Cheers

You see i would assume this as well, except the dev's have already stated that each faction is getting two reward units (for now) and the wh get the pak36 and the Jagdtiger.  Therefore, i still can't work out what Rizz meant about the Nashorn being already included.  Or am i just being supremely dense here   

[SK8ERatWAR]

Maybe its coming as the second Wehr reward unit?

Not seen a live feed for a while so have probably missed any newer announcements since the Jagdtiger etc.

Aye, Nashorn is basically a Hummel made for anti-tank purposes rather than mobile arty.

Cheers

You see i would assume this as well, except the dev's have already stated that each faction is getting two reward units (for now) and the wh get the pak36 and the Jagdtiger.  Therefore, i still can't work out what Rizz meant about the Nashorn being already included.  Or am i just being supremely dense here   

maybe he's just referring to the G-wagon, because it's basically the same (turretless mobile AT-gun), and in game the G-wagon is already more powerfull then it actually should be.. "as powerfull as a nashorn would be in game"
that's what i think..

[luz777]

Ahh a Pak 36, see I thought I would have missed something.

Yeah SK8 I'd imagine your right then.

Cheers

[javy52]

this is really cool, applause to all that help make some of this happen   

[Seeme]

* No one applause*

[AbhMkh]

Lool , why dont you guys try to read some vehicle history

nashorn , gwagen , elefant are completely different vehicles


I'm a bit concerned by the inclusions of either nashorn or elefant cuz the elefant had armor like tht of a tiger and range as tht of a 17 pounder


The germans couldnt use it cuz of the mechanical breakdowns and its high vulnerability to infantry(as it had no mg)


Now if the germans can ake n number of elefants on the field

i just cant imagine the havoc tht they will wreak on the allied tanks!

There should be some kin of pop cap on elefants or nashorns so tht they can be produced in number


"The Germans were brilliant engineers but  resilience and robustness is wht wins the war" 

[Werwolf]

The germans couldnt use it cuz of the mechanical breakdowns and its high vulnerability to infantry(as it had no mg)

hmm...you were referring to the Ferdinand (earlier version). the Elefant didn't break down as frequently (though a lot were destroyed by their own crews while retreating), and it had an MG34 for local defense. 

[Seeme]

Germans should of learned to retreat better...

[One-eye]

Lool , why dont you guys try to read some vehicle history

nashorn , gwagen , elefant are completely different vehicles

I'm a bit concerned by the inclusions of either nashorn or elefant cuz the elefant had armor like tht of a tiger and range as tht of a 17 pounder

Ok two points here, firstly we know they're different vehicles but apparently you don't seem to understand that "Geschutzwagen" is a VERY general term that's applicable to a whole range of different things.   Now my German is pretty awful and i'm sure Lord Rommel will correct me here, but i believe the rough translation for Geschutzwagen  is "assult gun". 

As for including the elephant i wouldn't worry about it.  Its almost certainly going to be a doctrinal call in unit and hard capped.  Also, the Dev's have already mentioned they can make a tank as powerful or as weak as they like as long as it fits in with balance.   So an elephant could be made to fit in much like the King tiger or ISU-152 was without being too OP, its just a case of altering the costs and stats to work. 

[Newbie.]

IMO, Elefant's main enemy should be Conscript armed Molotov Cocktails. (Or was it vice versa? v-v)

[AbhMkh]

As far as the german translation is concerned "assault gun" is the full word of the short word stug , and seriously i don't knw whether geshutzwagen is the german for assault gun but there are only two tanks referred to as geshutzwagen these were the panzer 75 mm mounted on a hotchkiss chassis.

German is a language with lot of random words , its rather difficult to tell nevertheless nashorn , elefant , geshutzwagen were all built on diff chassis

nashorn - panzer

elefant- tiger

geshutzwagen - hotchkiss


All german open topped tank destroyers were vulnerable to molotov cocktails , u must have seen an example in the movie "Saving Private Ryan" , the elefants were improved with an mg34 however they were to heavy to tow while retreating hence they were destroyed by their crews


elefants were so heavily armored tht the tank used to take little damge from the soviet 150 mm mortar rounds while the crew died inside , they were later salvaged and repaired and again sent of to war , tht why the soviet were ordered to fire on german tanks till they were completely destroyed!