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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2010, 07:48:35 PM »
Three things guys....

1) We're not going to just stick in 100 reward units, that's not how it works...its not a candy store...

2) To chose a unit it must be able to accomodate the following...must look cool,be able to be modeled and animated correctly,be able to replace a unit in a faction/tech tree without overlaping abilities of other units in the rest of the faction,be as good and balanced as the unit it replaces therefore not making the choice between the two automatic, must not really copy the unit of another faction and finally be able to serve a true purpose in the faction.

3) Historical vehicle abilities and game abilities are totally different things.
A PzII could be made as damaging and resilient as a KT if that meant it would be balanced and serve a purpose.
Therefore arguing how a 2 Pz3s would win vs an IS-2 etc, is a pointless debate



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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2010, 08:47:17 PM »
Ok I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in the Soviet section (sorry if it has) already, but what about something like a T-35 as a Soviet reward unit?   

My thinking is its design is fairly unique and for coh, totally original (i think its looks very cool).  What would make this tank so interesting is due to the relatively slow speed it could act as more of a defensive tank capable of engaging multiple opponents at once and holding ground like a mobile fortress.  This would provide a completely different tactical challenge for both players as well as help to set apart the Soviet tanks from the other factions. 

That said i am aware it might be difficult for the developers to create a model due to the unusual multi-turreted design. 

I am also aware that this tank wasn't that common, hence why i think it should be a doctrinal reward unit.   

Despite this i feel the totally unique design makes it worthy as a possible suggestion. 

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2010, 09:13:31 PM »
The reason why you won't see it is because getting to animate the turrets to work/target independently is not possible atm. Plus, the thing doesn't fit in at all with the rest of COH....looks more like WW1 land battleship
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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2010, 09:20:56 PM »
The reason why you won't see it is because getting to animate the turrets to work/target independently is not possible atm. Plus, the thing doesn't fit in at all with the rest of COH....looks more like WW1 land battleship

 :( Ahh fair enough, i feared the multi-turrets would be utterly impossible to animate. 

I don't know, i think the whole land battleship look gives it a unique charm, very similar to that of the early war French tanks (especially the never produced prototypes). 

Oh well, thanks anyway.   
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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2010, 11:30:27 PM »
If you do animate it, it will look more like a robot on treads then a tank.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2010, 05:15:40 PM »
The reason why you won't see it is because getting to animate the turrets to work/target independently is not possible atm. Plus, the thing doesn't fit in at all with the rest of COH....looks more like WW1 land battleship
I thought that has already been done in the the great war 1918 mod..
http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-great-war-1918/images/landships6#imagebox

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2010, 08:46:50 PM »
Not quite, to my knowledge... You can animate different parts of the tank but can't make each weapon fire at a different targets at the same time. In essence, a tank can only fire at a single unit at a time meaning that even if a T35 was surrounded by 8 infantry squads and despite having 5 turrets, it would only engage 1 squad with the turrets that can see them. The other turrets wouldn't fire at the other squads in the mean time.
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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2010, 08:51:29 PM »
Not quite, to my knowledge... You can animate different parts of the tank but can't make each weapon fire at a different targets at the same time. In essence, a tank can only fire at a single unit at a time meaning that even if a T35 was surrounded by 8 infantry squads and despite having 5 turrets, it would only engage 1 squad with the turrets that can see them. The other turrets wouldn't fire at the other squads in the mean time.
How about a Churchill Croc. It can fire a 2 targets.
T-28 could be a normal tank with much more powerfull hull MGs.

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2010, 01:10:26 AM »
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How about a Churchill Croc. It can fire a 2 targets.

I believe the flamethrower on Churchill Crocodile acts similar to a hull MG, that means if your in front of it, it will fire (literally ;D)...therefore it cant act as a rotary turret/cannon and cant acquire targets, it will just fire on those that are in front of it.
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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2010, 11:25:39 AM »
Not quite, to my knowledge... You can animate different parts of the tank but can't make each weapon fire at a different targets at the same time. In essence, a tank can only fire at a single unit at a time meaning that even if a T35 was surrounded by 8 infantry squads and despite having 5 turrets, it would only engage 1 squad with the turrets that can see them. The other turrets wouldn't fire at the other squads in the mean time.

I'm not sure about this, but are the different members of an infantry squad able to attack different squads at the same time (when not ordered to fire at one specifically)? If so, could this coding not be rewired in same way to suit a tank?

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2010, 03:55:24 PM »
I'm not sure about this, but are the different members of an infantry squad able to attack different squads at the same time (when not ordered to fire at one specifically)? If so, could this coding not be rewired in same way to suit a tank?

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2010, 10:20:17 PM »
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SU
SU-122 - Already coming...
SU-76 - Light replacement for T70... Light Tank Destroyer with less armour than the '70...
ZSU-37 - T-34 with a AA Gun ontop... Replaces the T90...
Valentine Mk. 3 - Armed with a 2PDR-6PDR-75MM gun, replace the Lend-Lease Sherman..
IS-3 - Replacing the ISU


There was a thread about this one some month ago. The devs really seemed to like the idea or already had some plans about it.

Looks promising.. lets have a real oponent for the Tiger/KT!



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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2010, 10:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Newbie. edited by -V-

SU
SU-122 - Already coming...
SU-76 - Light replacement for T70... Light Tank Destroyer with less armour than the '70...
ZSU-37 - T-34 with a AA Gun ontop... Replaces the T90...
Valentine Mk. 3 - Armed with a 2PDR-6PDR-75MM gun, replace the Lend-Lease Sherman..
IS-3 - Replacing the ISU


There was a thread about this one some month ago. The devs really seemed to like the idea or already had some plans about it.

Looks promising.. lets have a real oponent for the Tiger/KT!




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Yea there was a discussion about this in the soviet army suggestion forum, which look like dead!

Do the dev have already a model for the IS-3?  :D

It would be a nice counter to KT, but Tiger are already countered by IS-2  ;)

But, can dev make a new armor type for COH? I mean, IS-3 was so tough, that making him a Jagdpanther armor would be strange (and also OP?  ;D). With the same gun than IS-2, and maybe slightly more speed, it would be THE tank of COH !!!
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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2010, 11:54:38 PM »
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How about a Churchill Croc. It can fire a 2 targets.
I believe the flamethrower on Churchill Crocodile acts similar to a hull MG, that means if your in front of it, it will fire (literally ;D)...therefore it cant act as a rotary turret/cannon and cant acquire targets, it will just fire on those that are in front of it.
I dont want them rotary, I want them static but as powerfull as PE halftrack MG or even T-90 MGs.
That would mean much less work to devs.

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Re: Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2010, 12:31:44 AM »
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How about a Churchill Croc. It can fire a 2 targets.
I believe the flamethrower on Churchill Crocodile acts similar to a hull MG, that means if your in front of it, it will fire (literally ;D)...therefore it cant act as a rotary turret/cannon and cant acquire targets, it will just fire on those that are in front of it.
I dont want them rotary, I want them static but as powerfull as PE halftrack MG or even T-90 MGs.
That would mean much less work to devs.
In that case it maybe could be done...but i think it will still be a lot of work for devs to do. Nevertheless it would be interesting to see some different tank design in this game...
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