Suggestions for Reward units for the UK, US, SU, WH, PE, OH

[luz777]

Hehe, I guess its all down to preference, I just find the Ausf H much cooler looking than the Ausf M for some reason.

The main reason in this case though is the stock relic model simply being far too big.

Aye, i can't see it happening unless someone takes it upon themself to make a model for it, still, I'm sure there'll be some more interesting reward units in the next patch or so.

Cheers

[SublimeSnugz]

sd.kfz.234/3

as a reward unit for the Wehr puma.

[Psycho1225]

The reward units you mentioned are practically the ones i had in mind, although some reward infantry would be nice

[WartyX]

I am particularly interested in seeing your ideas for Reward Infantry.

[Ghost]

for brits, uk and pe it's quite difficult to replace inf units because the have just a few.
but for wehr i have some ideas:

Marksman - replaces sniper
1 man, scoped K98, increased range but reduced rate of fire, makes him an efficient sniper killer but weaker vs. inf

Sturmpioniers - replace KnightsCrossHolders
4 men, 2 flamers, 2 mp40, gain incendiary grenades on vet 1 and haftladung (anti-tank charge) on vet 3

Sabotage Squad - replaces Stormtroopers
4 men with mp40, can camo, plant demo charge, gain "slow the advance" ability (vehicles in that sector have reduced movement speed) on vet 2

Artillery Spotters - replace Officer
2 men with k98, can call-in various arty (higher vet unlocks additional abilities)
vet 0: mortar barrage (2-3 shots)
vet 1: precision arty strike (1 shot)
vet 2: smoke barrage
vet 3: arty barrage

[Mad hatters in jeans]

If any faction needs new units it's the PE or Brits.
looking forward to Ostheer and all the interesting little problems to iron out that follows inevitibly from a new faction.

So my suggestions for reward units:
Brits desperately need a new infantry unit and something to boost their manpower because they eat through it at an astonishing rate.
and a tank destroyer that can be obtained sooner than the firefly.
what really baffles me is the lack of call in air support the Western allies get unless you go airborne doctrines this is lacking.
even with airborne doctrines a severe lack of air attack forces. i mean it was pivotal in their counter to German armour on many occasions.
even just a one-shot airattack from a fighter-bomber ability for squad leaders. but i suppose my complaint is more against the whole British faction as a whole so i'll just stick with suggesting the Archer tank
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archer_(tank_destroyer)
to replace the churchill crocodile i think would be best. ideally it would be buildable from the armour support but i don't know how doable this would be.
This one tank destroyer would add a very much needed mobile element to anti-armour that is currently obtained sooner by both their american allies (tank destroyer), Wehrmacht (stug).

Or alternatively to add in more armour variation in the british armour doctrine simply adding a munitions cost to upgrading the churchill tank with a flamer or AVRE launcher would open up two new slots for tanks or other abilities. i think this could be done feasibly without overpowering the British (it is the armour doctrine for gods sake. i mean look at the soviet armour doctrine its crammed with brilliant armour.

[Newbie.]

I've always wanted to see a Reward unit for the commandos as the Long-Range Battlegroup..

I was thinking

Raiders - Replace Commandos

5x men, 4x Lee-Enfield No. 1 and 1x Lewis MG, Good Vs. Infantry.

Desert Jeep - Call in a Land-Rover with 2 Vickers HMG's Added to it. Replace Tetrach.

And a Desert Pioneir Unit, Replace Sappers.

4x men armed with M1 Thompsons, can build MG nests, Mortar nests, and Arty, but not 17 Pdr and Bofors.

[One-eye]

I am particularly interested in seeing your ideas for Reward Infantry.

Right what about....

Russians
Siberian Infantry-possibly as a reward unit for partisans, I imagine they would be armed with rifles and sniper weapons + some kind of ambush ability.

Black Sea Marines- Tough defensive infantry  (i know we already have a model for them) maybe armed with a heavy machine gun as an alternative to the mortar team.   

Brits
Totally agree with Newbie's suggestion +1

Possibly a Commonwealth infantry regiment as some kind of replacement (cheaper, faster and larger squad but at the cost of poorer weapons and equipment) infantry formation. 

Americans

Maybe the 1st Infantry division (Big Red One) as some kind of elite infantry to replace rangers. 

Germans

Gebirgsjäger (Mountain troops)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebirgsj%C3%A4ger
Some kind of recon infantry role (perhaps the ability to use  binoculars) with excellent ranged weapons. 

MAYBE one of the foreign SS formations such as the Nordland if it didn't prove too controversial to include them.  Perhaps include them with an ambiguous title such as "Foreign assault troops" and give them an ability similar to "For the Fatherland" (perhaps even remove their ability to retreat to represent them as fanatics). 

[neosdark]

Well i agree that the Big Red 1 should be represented in game, but its a unit of infantry, they aren't particularly unique. Maybe they would be a replacement for the Rangers in the sense that they are elite AI infantry.

Fighting First Assualt Squad- Replaces Rangers

5 men armed with 1 Johnson LMGs, 3 M1A1 Thompsons, and 1 BAR. They have Satchel Charges (for building clearing) and the Fire Up ability. They can be upgraded with M1928A1 (to replace the M1A1) which have a 50 bullet Round Drum and a Cutts Compensator for decreased recoil for 75 munitions. They are extremly good against infantry but are near useless against anything with more Armor than an Armored Car.

[GamblerSK]

well if replace commandos then with SAS troops...

[Skykid93]

Big Red One infantry (I know this is not a very creative name ).

6 men armed with, 3 M1A1's Thompson's and 2 M1 Garands and 1 BAR

They have the ability to place an explosive charge on vehicles, but ONLY if they are either locked down of Immobilised.

They can be upgraded with one of the following 3 packages.

Heavy weapons package: Replaces the BAR with a Browning M1919A6 LMG for added firepower. The LMG have the ability to fire Armor Piercing rounds for a short period of time to be somewhat useful against light armor

Fireteam package: Replaces the 2 M1 Garands with 2 Scoped M1 Garand, they're much more accurate than a normal M1. Adds a marksman ability like the Tommies with the recon package for a single powerful sniper shot.

Assault team Package: Replaces all the weapons in the squad except the BAR with M1928A1 Thompson's with 50 round drums for added close range firepower. Adds a assault ability where they will charge an enemy squad while pining them down before getting in close to finish the job.

NOTE: I've decided not to give them either Bazookas or Recoilless rifles because I'm pretty sure that they then would make the rangers Obsolete, instead you have the choice between a squad that is good vs infantry and tanks, and another squad that is excellent vs infantry, but pretty bad vs tanks.

[PanzerWilly]

People dont want that tank becuase its ugly?

To tell you the truth, I think the Stug is a very ugly in real life, and super ugly in the gane. That still dosent mean I dont use it.

What? Stug is ugly? I actually love it, for its low profile, sport car like(for me), robust look with every practical use in game. Its an early pusher and it is better than Panzer IV, which look better but have little chance against T 34. Stug IV maybe is a lesser vehicle than the SU 85, but with micro and Paks help it could off set early Su 85 rush. Although I admit Su 85 is a better assault gun than I thought.
Post Merge: August 21, 2010, 06:18:55 PM

Wouldnt that sort of replacement better suit the vampire halftrack

edit: nvm just noticed you said that

something to replace that useless unit would be great.

The vampire halftrack isn't useless and never will be, before 1.20 it was more useful than muniHT. The point is that many people don't like/use it but doesn't mean that is useless.

Nope, its a unit that PE player take advantage of, its map detection as early warning and the fact you can hide it  and drop goliath makes it useful, just that no one like a vehicle that can't shoot back when get shot. And the fact munition HT always on the move, unlike vampire which have to remained at the spot until it had to move. And when your not paying attention, vampire is very much a sitting duck. And muntion always a better infantry and vehicle support option, vampire is considered an optional unit.

[Seeme]

I didn't say the stug wasn't useful, its just ugly.

[neosdark]

Big Red One infantry (I know this is not a very creative name ).

6 men armed with, 3 M1A1's Thompson's and 2 M1 Garands and 1 BAR

Assault team Package: Replaces all the weapons in the squad except the BAR with M1928A1 Thompson's with 50 round drums for added close range firepower. Adds a assault ability where they will charge an enemy squad while pining them down before getting in close to finish the job.

Is it me or did u just steal my design from the previous page with the Assualt Team package. Is this a deliberate theiving or u just didn't notice my post?

Fighting First Assualt Squad- Replaces Rangers

5 men armed with 1 Johnson LMGs, 3 M1A1 Thompsons, and 1 BAR. They have Satchel Charges (for building clearing) and the Fire Up ability. They can be upgraded with M1928A1 (to replace the M1A1) which have a 50 bullet Round Drum and a Cutts Compensator for decreased recoil for 75 munitions. They are extremly good against infantry but are near useless against anything with more Armor than an Armored Car.

 The Fighting First is the Big Red One just two different nicknames for the same 1st Infantry Division.

[Skykid93]

Big Red One infantry (I know this is not a very creative name ).

6 men armed with, 3 M1A1's Thompson's and 2 M1 Garands and 1 BAR

Assault team Package: Replaces all the weapons in the squad except the BAR with M1928A1 Thompson's with 50 round drums for added close range firepower. Adds a assault ability where they will charge an enemy squad while pining them down before getting in close to finish the job.

Is it me or did u just steal my design from the previous page with the Assualt Team package. Is this a deliberate theiving or u just didn't notice my post?

Sorry, I did see your post, but i didn't notice the name, I was very tired at the time. I actually got the idea for the names from "Brothers in Arms". Again I am very sorry for unintentionally thieving your ideas,