ostheer medium tanks

[Saavedra]

Main reason for the ostheer is for added gameplay from another faction and a chance to get other stuff into the game eg. elefant, panzer III. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see old stuff like Sd kfz 251 half track or the medium tanks in the whermacht and panzer elite.

You could do that with reward units, replacing the Puma with Panzer IIIs, the Panthers/Tigers/King Tigers with Elefants, etc...

>Main reason for the ostheer is for added gameplay from another faction

We already have the Wehrmacht and the Panzer Elite. I wonder if the new Ostheer, yet ANOTHER German-centric faction, is going to justify its existence when it finally comes out seeing how the first two factions already fulfill nearly every imaginable niche.

[vietlord]

well wherm is really def and counter, + superior teching

PE is raid-fanatism and weak cars +end Panther²

 axis needs early panzer to fend human sov waves but of course lighter end-game

xp speed and carac will deliver diffrent gameplay

[Shadowmetroid]

axis needs early panzer to fend human sov waves but of course lighter end-game

Agreed. Since Ostheer should be the army most suited to fight the Ruskies, they should get adequate early armor to combat their Soviet counterparts.

[Saavedra]

You want early panzer? I don´t see how that could go wrong balance-wise!

 

[neosdark]

Well Saavedra, wild suggestion but why don't we use a Panzer 35(t) or Panzer 2  .

Both have very thin armor so the British mortar+ Button would slaughter em, the American stickies would = death, and the Soviet tank hunters......well u get the point right?

 Its very easy to balance since early-armor would be tier 2-2.5 (in this particular example) and by then most sane players would have all of the above regularly available. So yea not destroing balance if u think about it too much.

[Paciat]

Well Saavedra, wild suggestion but why don't we use a Panzer 35(t) or Panzer 2  .

Both have very thin armor so the British mortar+ Button would slaughter em, the American stickies would = death, and the Soviet tank hunters......well u get the point right?

Do you want PzII with vehicle_22x (PE ketten, AC and halftrack) armor?
I guess a PzII could be a late Sdkfz222 but I want a quad halftrack.

Weak like a PE halftrack, Speed and firepower same as Wirblewind. Ostheer needs non doctrinal air defense (so sais the Devs).

PzII would be a great 2CP doctrinal call-in (vehicle_22x armor) or a 4CP glider call-in with (Sdkfz234 armor).

[Shadowmetroid]

Like the PzII call-in idea. That quad halftrack looks fun too. 

[Versedhorison]

I like the anti aircraft half track I'd probably put that in as the ostheers anti aircraft if I was a dev. I don't really like the Idea of the Panzer II cause it will get killed by all other allied armour in the game plus its seems out of place in a 1944 game.

[Saavedra]

Well Saavedra, wild suggestion but why don't we use a Panzer 35(t) or Panzer 2  .

Both have very thin armor so the British mortar+ Button would slaughter em, the American stickies would = death, and the Soviet tank hunters......well u get the point right?

Only problem with that is the range. Most tanks have the range and speed to kite infantry quite easily. Good luck getting stickies off on an early-game tank which naturally, if light armored, will need to have something to compensate for that so it is still useful late-game, like more range, more power, or more speed.

[HansBlix]

I really think the Ostheer should have PII or PIII included. Those where a major part of the initial tank force in 1941 and they are not included in the game so far.

Maybe, like already suggested, as a call-in weapon or a puma spare... but they fit more into the concept of a small tank, i guess.

[Akalonor]

oh god not another 222 case
Personally I'd want to see the Pz III since it has good armor and a decent cannon.

[Seeme]

Rattle to the max!

Lol jk I know they werent made, no need to start yelling

[guynumber7]

i suggested this:

Stug III
Armed with a stubby 75mm. Very good vs infantry, horrible vs tanks. If shaped charge technology is researched, it can fire a single HEAT round, which does a high amount of damage to enemy tanks . If lengthened barrels is researched, it gains a KWK 40 L48 gun, which dramatically boosts its AT firepower, but it loses its HEAT round ability

Panzer III
Medium tank of the ostheer. Initially armed with 50mm kwk 38 L43, good vs all targets but great vs none. Can be individually upgraded for 60 fuel to ausf L, which makes the gun more effective (KWK 39 L/60)against enemy tanks and improves the armor. Can use APCR rounds once individually upgraded,  temporarily boosts AT performance further.

[vonhaggon]

Read my idea of incorporating pzkpfw II into game on unit suggestions.

[HyperSniper999]

I want Panzer III's and II's.