The Eastern Front Mod in Russia

[Tico_1990]

To all the History fanatics: neither vCOH nor EF are history simulators. Furthermore, neither Relic, nor the EF team claim that the game/mod is such a thing.
This means a few things:

1: Complaining about historical accuracy is pointless. It is the same as complaining that a painting doesn't sound right. Of course it doesn't, it is meant to be viewed, not listened too.

2: The EF team are able and allowed to take the entertainment level into consideration

3: If you are so keen on having a proper war/history simulation, than play Hearts of Iron 1, 2 or 3

Cheers

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

Thus here history? In COH Americans and Germans look steep, and you did a soviet army cannon fodder. For you did anybody perish on war? How many did perish soviet people? 27 millions, and from them only 8 million soldiers. One time do fashions of soviet troops, do his normal with normal units infantry. That for a delirium? 1 rifle on two, where you was it seen in general? All yunity infantry perish as flies unlike Germans and Americans. Thus here game, if you did so.

[WartyX]

So you are saying that because the Soviets perished like flies in the war, we should have the respect to make them not perish like flies ingame?

[UeArtemis]

Russian people do not like the fact that the Red Army is not in the spirit of the time (1944), in which conditioned the other sides.

[WartyX]

Well, in all reality, the other sides are not actually conditioned to suit 1944. Relic took many many creative licenses on units from all four factions.

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

You certainly fine fellows, that did such scale fashions on COH. I a long ago dreamed to see our in this game. But all the same it is needed to finish off him. As I talked already, sick theme with draftees. Motorized infantry perish as flies, although they must be equal to the basic infantry of the USA, Germany and England. You wrote one time, that it is experimental soldiers, do them in detachment 5 persons and do equal on possibilities to the infantry of other sides. And similarly cannon of ZIS-2, it is better to change him on ZIS-3. ZIS-2 very dear and difficult 57mm cannon, they were produced very little. When ZIS-3 was the basic cannon of the USSR.

[Tico_1990]

To the Russian people who don't like it that the Russian army isn't in that spirit, I'd like to point out that they become so later on.
I prefer the way the Russian nation was build because it shows some form of development through time.
Also, as for the "Russians being killed so easily", have you ever seen what happens when a Russian player attacks the German soldiers? The only German infantry that stands a chance are PE grenadiers with G43.

As for my country during the war, it was ran over in 5 days and some pretty nasty stuff happened (I'm from the Netherlands).

Cheers

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

Я думаю, русские люди и прочие десятки народов СССР, лучше знают историю своей страны и армию того времени.
I think, Russian people and other ten of people of the USSR, better know history of the country and army of that time.

[UeArtemis]

In fact, the ZIS-2 has better penetrability than ZIS-3. ZIS-3 is better against unarmored targets.

[wordsmith]

... десятки народов СССР...

Only translation note: "десятки народов СССР" is better to translate as "dozens of nations of Soviet Union" than "other ten of people of the USSR". You clearly use Google translate, maybe it would be better if you post also in Russian language because sometimes it is very hard to decipher the message. Later someone who speaks Russian could translate - like UeArtemis f.e.

[UeArtemis]

I also use Google, I'm lazy, but I read in English fluently.
I need to urgently make a diploma, so please do not bother me about translations.

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

I not very much well know English. To read and translate can, but to write on him I am difficult, I know grammar badly.

It is needed to add jeeps and reserved cars to the soviet army. I do not know why the developers of it did not do. On the first stage of game, Germans on motochicles with machine guns destroy any detachment of the USSR in easy, compel them to retreat to the base. So they deprive his resources, in a multyplayer yet worse...

[Sonders]

Well I think you guys did are doing a great job on this mod. And being that its free, I don t see how anyone could complain.

I am sorry to hear that a retreat for the Soviets will be added in the next major patch. I read the polls about it and it was closed before I got here. I think it really sets this mod apart making the play style so much different from the other factions. Also, not being able to crew dropped weapons should be a feature and not a bug. I find myself destroying empty paks more than I ever have before. The different play style makes it more fun. I don’t see why so many want to make the Soviets more like the other factions.

I don’t want to offend or make anyone feel bad but most of us know what happened to Russian soldiers in WW2 that ran or retreated. And not just the grunts but high ranking officers too.

Who said “It takes a brave man to be a coward in Russia” ?

[Happycat]

What's with some Russians getting so butthurt over such minor details? I have never seen Germans whining about the Knight Cross Holders, a unit which never existed and that are basically well-dressed soldiers decorated with the Reich's second highest military honor being sent to the meatgrinder in 3-man squads.
And those who whine about the russian soldiers being "spam", I have NEVER seen an American player crying bloody murder and saying the game is pissing on their grandfathers' tombs by making Ranger spam a valid tactic. Learn from them and enjoy the damn game, you spoiled brats.

I wonder if these russian players would be more happy if the Soviet units were more "historically accurrate" and had special functions that made them loot the map houses ramdomly and rape everything in sight.

I LOVE the cinematic badass units like the conscripts and Red banner Strelky, I hope the devs don't surrender to the haters and change them.

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

That for a delirium does talk? Brains are washed for you behind an ocean. If does not know about what talk, better silent. For such for us at a muzzle beat