The Eastern Front Mod in Russia

[UeArtemis]

Company of Heroes: East front - The hysteria on the background of shit.

Summing up, I'll say only one thing - mod designers clearly outplayed in the "Call of duty 2" and reviewed the film "Enemy at the Gates". In general, the mod is designed for degenerates and lovers of spam. Normal players get tired of it after two, maximum four days. A very strong imbalance is felt that the mod is very crude and needs serious improvement. Let's wait a bit, let's see what will come when the second fraction.
Outcome: 6/10 points

[WartyX]

Interesting review. Admittedly they had reviewed our unbalanced initial release, it would seem that most of their niggles will be sorted by the release of the next major patch. I wonder how their opinion would change.

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

In Russia this the fashions will not be very come to love, because developers offend such mod veterans and their children and grandchildren.

[UeArtemis]

Russian go... On tanks!

Making the «Eastern Front» developers have tried to cross the original concept of the game with their vision of the faction "Soviet Union". What was the result of the unnatural crossing? Hard to say. That has turned out some inconsistency - it accurately.
The original concept of the game implied by the Allies and the Germans technical level of mid-1944 onwards. From this models, technology, hence the upgrades and doctrines.
Developers do not want make the Soviet Army of the time of the Operation Bagration. They are drawn to the exotic.
Because in the game has the concept of "the Soviet Union was not ready for war" - it means starting teams down. There's another - "In the USSR in the beginning of the war weapons are not enough - half the soldiers weapon down."
That is, some kind of strategic parcels tried to shove in a very tactical game. As for me, it is the main negative of the mod. Indeed, in a single party, we do not pass the path from 1941 to 1945. We play one single clash of the second half of 1944 - the first half of 1945. No more.
It turned out that the Soviet Union, the only faction in the game, during a fast-moving tactical battlefield (about thirty minutes of real time) goes all the way simulation of strategic development for four years.
Berlin began to storm the recruits with a rifle at two, and finish the guards with the support of IP-2 and SU-100.

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

Those troops which were located near a border are not ready were. A rifle weapon was in surplus in throughout the year of war. But I do not understand why soviet troops can not pick up a weapon and equipment from earth, and why can not retreat in the district of staff.

[WartyX]

New factions cannot recrew heavy weapons without crashing the game. It is an engine limitation which we cannot fix, so we removed the ability. Retreat will be added to Soviet units in the next major patch.

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

Thank you. On your place I would clean conscripts. All of soviet army- conscripts. We did not have such detachments in general, where one rifle on two. There was ordinary, as well as other armies, detachment of infantry. There were submachine gunners in him, pointers and machine gunners.

[Zerstörer]

There is lot of ignorance and failure to understand technical issues we faced at the beginning and are still dealing with even now(complaints about voice acting? WTF??). There is a distinct lack of understanding as to the modding limits in COH.
Yes the review is no doubt for v1.00 which was somewhat of a mockery balance wise...we're still paying for that...and its a very uphill fight...

There were no knights Cross units either in the war....one of the things people fail to understand is that we keep it in the the spirit of COH, creating units with cinematic cool feeling based on historical backround.
Honestly, if you fail to see that, its not our problem when people expect totally different type of mod which doesn't follow vanila COH spirit. A 'reviewer' that fails to understand such basic concepts of vanila COH, then criticizes the mod, is frankly a muppet!
Wtf would be the point of naming all units ' Soviet infantry' and then tagging them Green/Regulars/Experienced/Veterans just to keep your 'historical sensitivity' satisfied(which is far from an impartial view at that)? 
They also Have to look Very different for game terms and have distinctive titles.

To sum up, if you don't like the design...tough shit. Pull your finger out and make one yourself then see how many people you please with your result...
Balance wise, we've made huge progress(still only 4 months since initial release) mostly due to our commitment and the people who help up by not sitting on the side lines bitching and moaning and complaining about issues, but instead provide genuine help. This is something we'll continue to improve upon.

[WartyX]

I find it hard to resist getting annoyed when people complain that our Soviet faction are not a perfect representation of the real Red Army, and claiming that it is insulting to base it off films and other games.

Have they not ever played the original factions in Company of Heroes?

[nbeerbower]

Have they not ever played the original factions in Company of Heroes?

The US faction has so many references to Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan, it's not even funny.

[cephalos]

I found this on the internet...
http://usercreated.org/2010/01/27/review-eastern-front-company-of-heroes/

It’s not just the Russian Army you’re getting here. The mod comes bundled with a swathe of maps, the best of which see you engaging in claustrophobic conflicts in the midst of the bombed out cityscape of Stalingrad. The units look fantastic and the sound direction is top notch, from the authentic Russian barks to the distinctive crack of their rifles, everything feels professional and polished. Quite frankly, Relic could have made this.

[UeArtemis]

I just wanted to show that the modification in Russia and the CIS was "coldly" greeted.

[Zerstörer]

And that is 90% down to those 'Russian gamers' not us or the quality of our mod. Although it has to be said one article is hardly an indication of the general feeling there...(there is like 5 comments all in all lol)
Apart from balance concerns (which wasn't really what was on that 'review') the rest of the article was like it was coming from someone clueless on vanila COH/COH modding and an overbearing amount of ignorance on what we are trying achieve...Waaaaaaay too much stuck on his 'historical accuracy' and misrepresentation as he sees it.

As for me, it is the main negative of the mod. Indeed, in a single party, we do not pass the path from 1941 to 1945. We play one single clash of the second half of 1944 - the first half of 1945. No more.

....I mean honestly...did COH cover 1939-1945 and I missed it?

The only real problem, regardless of where the players come from, is balance/gameplay...that 'hardcore historical accuracy' stuff only come from a 'select few' and hence why its not a concern

[InkvizitoR_51rus]

You do fashions about our army, and our grandfathers militated in it, as I already and talked,  all of my grandfathers had killed on this war. One under Stalingrad, other in Leningrad. Be is kind doing our army is normal, but not propose by its cannon fodder which nothing able. From detachment of the German militiamen pound more than, from two detachments of draftees. If you need some help in information and creation of 3d models, can help.

[Zerstörer]

Everyone had grandparents who died in the war no matter what country, you're not unique in your situation. There is no disrespect here but having a grandparent die in the war doesn't somehow make you or anyone else for that matter an expert on WW2. Most importantly, this IS A GAME! NOT A HISTORY LESSON.

You clearly do not understand the basis of COH and are stuck on your 'historicaly sensitive ideals'. Get over it and play COH like the game it is. We've made the Soviet army COH style, not to make some sort of History lesson. If you don't get that, look for another game not COH

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