[1.31] If your game crashes - Post here

[IJoe]

EF uses more resources than ToV(which uses more resources than OF), hence, that's why the crash happens. Did you get a "temp folder full" error or just crash?

No error messages at all. All of of sudden the game freezes and the sound of the game just keeps repeating over and over. The only thing I can do is manually turn the computer off using the on/off switch on the actual computer.

Sounds pretty much like RAM deficiency. Try closing all programs, unneeded ATM. You can monitor your RAM usage through process monitor (ctrl+alt+del), or with a help of some utility like statbar.
Mainly, people tend to stick with anti-virus software, though it is of no use, when the game is running, really. But basically, CLOSE EVERYTHING, unless you really need it.

[Blackbishop]

You need more ram. Usually if you set your settings to low, you should get that error(you don't get it on higher settings because the remaining resources are low, hence it happens like in your case).

No matter how many programs he closes, he will need more ram(unless he has some memory sucking software being used at the time), also, 4GB of virtual memory is enough, it won't help at all to avoid all the crashes but at least you will be able to get a normal crash.

[IJoe]

You need more ram. Usually if you set your settings to low, you should get that error(you don't get it on higher settings because the remaining resources are low, hence it happens like in your case).

No matter how many programs he closes, he will need more ram(unless he has some memory sucking software being used at the time), also, 4GB of virtual memory is enough, it won't help at all to avoid all the crashes but at least you will be able to get a normal crash.

I played on the computer (just recently) with similar processor and just the same ammount of RAM, so I know, what exactly I'm talking about .
He needs to monitor, how much RAM his other programmes use. It has to be below 1Gb if I remember correctly. And there's also a RAM usage bar in the game settings he should set at values not exceeding about 1/3 of it's size.

[Blackbishop]

You need more ram. Usually if you set your settings to low, you should get that error(you don't get it on higher settings because the remaining resources are low, hence it happens like in your case).

No matter how many programs he closes, he will need more ram(unless he has some memory sucking software being used at the time), also, 4GB of virtual memory is enough, it won't help at all to avoid all the crashes but at least you will be able to get a normal crash.

I played on the computer (just recently) with similar processor and just the same ammount of RAM, so I know, what exactly I'm talking about .
He needs to monitor, how much RAM his other programmes use. It has to be below 1Gb if I remember correctly. And there's also a RAM usage bar in the game settings he should set at values not exceeding about 1/3 of it's size.

similar? how similar? was faster than his processor? was from different brand but same speed? -> (not a celeron processor but an amd or another intel model)

If you used a celeron in that pc, fair enough; however, if you used a different processor than a celeron with the same speed (2.4 GHz)... that's another story and will affect CoH performance.

Intel Celeron is the worst brand of Intel processors to play video games.

[IJoe]

similar? how similar? was faster than his processor? was from different brand but same speed? -> (not a celeron processor but an amd or another intel model)

If you used a celeron in that pc, fair enough; however, if you used a different processor than a celeron with the same speed (2.4 GHz)... that's another story and will affect CoH performance.

Intel Celeron is the worst brand of Intel processors to play video games.

Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz, I think.  Don't remember the E number, but most likely 6750.

[TyrantOfUtumno]

Sounds pretty much like RAM deficiency. Try closing all programs, unneeded ATM. You can monitor your RAM usage through process monitor (ctrl+alt+del), or with a help of some utility like statbar.
Mainly, people tend to stick with anti-virus software, though it is of no use, when the game is running, really. But basically, CLOSE EVERYTHING, unless you really need it.

Ok I've just done a little experiment. Here is what I did before I started the game:

Downloaded 'Advanced SystemCare' which gave me a RAM usage bar near the clock on my screen. When I haven't got any games or internet running it is at about 80% (1600mb roughly).
I entered the game and reduced my settings until the settings bar was green and about halfway along (that's well within acceptable settings I think?).
Lastly I made a 2vs2 computer match.

On entering the game my RAM dropped to about 25% free RAM.

After about 20 minutes the game froze. However I looked at the RAM usage while the game was frozen and it was at about 30-40% (I would have thought it would need to be under 10% in order for the game to crash?).

Any ideas?

[IJoe]

Sounds pretty much like RAM deficiency. Try closing all programs, unneeded ATM. You can monitor your RAM usage through process monitor (ctrl+alt+del), or with a help of some utility like statbar.
Mainly, people tend to stick with anti-virus software, though it is of no use, when the game is running, really. But basically, CLOSE EVERYTHING, unless you really need it.

Ok I've just done a little experiment. Here is what I did before I started the game:

Downloaded 'Advanced SystemCare' which gave me a RAM usage bar near the clock on my screen. When I haven't got any games or internet running it is at about 80% (1600mb roughly).
I entered the game and reduced my settings until the settings bar was green and about halfway along (that's well within acceptable settings I think?).
Lastly I made a 2vs2 computer match.

On entering the game my RAM dropped to about 25% free RAM.

After about 20 minutes the game froze. However I looked at the RAM usage while the game was frozen and it was at about 30-40% (I would have thought it would need to be under 10% in order for the game to crash?).

Any ideas?

Yeah, it's definitely the RAM deficiency - the game crashes the very moment it experiences the RAM shortage, then the RAM usage drops, since the game isn't really running.
Get your RAM usage below 1Gb before you start the game, or else - get more RAM.

[TyrantOfUtumno]

Yeah, it's definitely the RAM deficiency - the game crashes the very moment it experiences the RAM shortage, then the RAM usage drops, since the game isn't really running.
Get your RAM usage below 1Gb before you start the game, or else - get more RAM.

As I say, without any games running my RAM usage is about 500mb, meaning I have 1500mb free.

Also I just tried Opposing Fronts - my RAM did exactly the same thing when I started a match with that, went down to about 20-25% free. Though I didn't play that game out to see if it crashed, it has very rarely crashed in the past.

[Blackbishop]

@IJoe
You cannot compare an Intel Celeron and a Core 2 Duo, it's like comparing a Mitsubishi Lancer with a bicycle.

@TyrantOfUtumno
As you have an unreliable processor, i don't think you can play this game properly with your current PC.

The problem that celerons have is that they have less cache memory and their bus transfer speed is lower than other models, creating a severe bottleneck between ram/hdd/processor... and that happens because isn't a processor designed for gaming but for casual use.

Remember that EF uses more resources than ToV, hence the crash. Also, skirmish matches seems to cause more crashes than PvP.

[IJoe]

As I say, without any games running my RAM usage is about 500mb, meaning I have 1500mb free.

Also I just tried Opposing Fronts - my RAM did exactly the same thing when I started a match with that, went down to about 20-25% free. Though I didn't play that game out to see if it crashed, it has very rarely crashed in the past.

Well, sorry to hear that, man.   Just tried to help you out.
Hope, you can find some solution to your problem.

Post Merge: March 15, 2011, 11:22:54 PMHey, I've almost forgotten: try running the game without EF launcher (through the separate shortcut), see this thread http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=5312
use some tweaks, listed there, as well.

[Blackbishop]

That's a good suggestion, i remind someone said EF launcher was giving him problems of "stability" on his pc. He said his problems gone once he stopped to use the launcher .

[TyrantOfUtumno]

@TyrantOfUtumno
As you have an unreliable processor, i don't think you can play this game properly with your current PC.

The problem that celerons have is that they have less cache memory and their bus transfer speed is lower than other models, creating a severe bottleneck between ram/hdd/processor... and that happens because isn't a processor designed for gaming but for casual use.

Remember that EF uses more resources than ToV, hence the crash. Also, skirmish matches seems to cause more crashes than PvP.

Aye I guess I'll stick with Opposing Fronts for the time being. Eventually when I get a better PC I'll try EF again.

Well, sorry to hear that, man.   Just tried to help you out.
Hope, you can find some solution to your problem.

Np, thanks for the help, looks like RAM is the problem and the processor as well.

That's a good suggestion, i remind someone said EF launcher was giving him problems of "stability" on his pc. He said his problems gone once he stopped to use the launcher

Hmmm so shutting down the launcher before I set up a match might help? Or is this in response to someone else?

[IJoe]

@TyrantOfUtumno
That above (of mine and of Blackbishop's) is addressing your issue. Try it out: don't run the EF launcher at all (after all updates are done). Just create a separate shortcut (use the link, I gave in my previous post to consult you). They say, it helps.
Best wishes!

[TyrantOfUtumno]

@TyrantOfUtumno
That above (of mine and of Blackbishop's) is addressing your issue. Try it out: don't run the EF launcher at all (after all updates are done). Just create a separate shortcut (use the link, I gave in my previous post to consult you). They say, it helps.
Best wishes!

Ok I've created the non-launcher shortcut. I'll test it out tomorrow to see if it performs better.
Post Merge: March 16, 2011, 06:48:24 PMOk I've just tried a 4 vs 4 skirmish. It seemed to be going well for a while, I thought it might have been fixed, but at about 25mins in it crashed. There didn't seem to be more units in play than at any other point in the game though. I could understand if I had tried to build a big army and then the game crashed but the amount of units didn't seem anymore than at any other point.

[donghaijie]

Thanks for your cooperation guys! Your reports, along with many others from the previous pages have been submitted.

Let's hope that bugs will be fixed .

when  they can fix that ? 

Don't know. Let's hope soon.

  not fixed ?