My Lend Lease Sherman [1.10]

[Akalonor]

Super American Technology will lulspwn all!
@Chancellor, I don't think it needs to be the Churchills equal they played the same role but the Churchill had a worse gun and better armor with a lower maximum speed.

Well obviously I'm not saying to give it the exact same stats as the Churchill.  A Sherman that moves like the Churchill would look stupid IMO.  It just needs to be equal to the Churchill performance-wise since it plays the same role.  Churchill stats or not that Sherman needs a huge nerf anyhow.

Well your post was very clear that you thought the Sherman should have the same effectivness and combat capabilities as a Churchill, thus implying that they should have similiar stats, IMO They do not play the same roles, The Sherman is more of an operations main battle tank while the Churchill was a defense busting tank.

[Chancellor]

Super American Technology will lulspwn all!
@Chancellor, I don't think it needs to be the Churchills equal they played the same role but the Churchill had a worse gun and better armor with a lower maximum speed.

Well obviously I'm not saying to give it the exact same stats as the Churchill.  A Sherman that moves like the Churchill would look stupid IMO.  It just needs to be equal to the Churchill performance-wise since it plays the same role.  Churchill stats or not that Sherman needs a huge nerf anyhow.

Well your post was very clear that you thought the Sherman should have the same effectivness and combat capabilities as a Churchill, thus implying that they should have similiar stats, IMO They do not play the same roles, The Sherman is more of an operations main battle tank while the Churchill was a defense busting tank.

OK I don't want to discuss this any further, sorry.  You don't understand what I'm trying to get across.

[vietlord]

well the mecanics should be bought first, the sherman is too early, (3, like the fat brit slow tank)

another lend lease maybe ? or just one at a time ? with the sherman and the riders able, the T3 is unecessary !

[Psycho1225]

A one-shot kill against halftracks? Daaaaamn 

[Akalonor]

well the mecanics should be bought first, the sherman is too early, (3, like the fat brit slow tank)

another lend lease maybe ? or just one at a time ? with the sherman and the riders able, the T3 is unecessary !

+1 to that,
maybe a Lend-Lease Jeep (Heaven knows that is needed with the Soviets)

[GodlikeDennis]

It does not come too early because, like the churchill, is pretty terrible against infantry due to it's inaccuracy. Very little AT is required to kill it. The tank simply does too much damage and has ridiculous modifiers. The modifiers against AT guns especially must go. Also, the fact that it handily beats a stug (the early armoured counter to the normal sherman) is quite a balance issue.

Just remember that the Gwagon does 250 damage, while this sherman does 184, fires faster, has a turret and has huge modifiers. If the Gwagon is OP then what is this?

well the mecanics should be bought first, the sherman is too early, (3, like the fat brit slow tank)

another lend lease maybe ? or just one at a time ? with the sherman and the riders able, the T3 is unecessary !

+1 to that,
maybe a Lend-Lease Jeep (Heaven knows that is needed with the Soviets)

-1 to that
Soviets should have a jeep from the barracks. A doctrinal jeep that would have to come at 1 point would be too late for the jeep to be effective and also give away your doctrine choice very quickly.

[Akalonor]

@GlD   'Your lack of faith is distrubing......'

[Reinefarth]

Having read all the tweaks and upgrades of 1.10 and what this new "sherman" can do, I have decided not to install this patch.
Such patches make me passionate Axis-Player sick. German Weapons have become junk and are constantly being tweaked.
Why not give the axis slingshots, paperballs, water-baloons and pea-shooters. That should make the allied players happy - on the other hand, they still would whine, that axis is to strong.

[SK8ERatWAR]

IMO the only thing that's wrong with the sherman is the damage that it does, it one shots a HT, 2 shots an AT..
And I find that if you keep the sherman on a good distance supported with infantry in front of it, no german tank can destroy the sherman.. I've played a couple of hours with the new patch, and I have still never lost a single sherman just by using it as a mobile AT.. HT's, puma's, stugs, P4's, Panthers..
They all got destroyed easily..

[Reinefarth]

The only weapon in the war that was able to take out practicly any tank (even at 5k, distance) with one shot, was the 88. It makes me sick to see the 88 in this game as such a pethetic weapon. Elite upgrade 3 88 needs up to 3 shots to destroy a US AT-Gun. I played Lyon against Soviets. My 88 needed over 8 shots to kill a SU85. It was allready disabled and  was shot up to the point that you could kill it with a handgrenade. Yet the 88 kept shooting at it "boing" shells bounce off.
If this game was somewhat realistic, a Tiger or King Tiger should take out a Sherman with one shot, if they are almost at point blank range. That a Tiger needs several shots to kill a US-Armoured car, is a joke. Its not like anyone could spam the game with tigers, since you only are able to get one. And even that single one which is expensive, isn't what it should be.

Playing Axis is becoming less fun with every new patch.  The "Allies" have a nice lobby and the developers always have an open ear for them.

[Soviet_Justice]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure my Sherman also one-shooted a PE halftrack. Anyway - the current concept of L-L Sherman is wrong imo, it's not in the spirit of Eastern front and should be changed.

Either: a) kick it out, b) make it a reward unit or c) at least make it come after mechanics in the doc tree