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Offline CreeperFIN

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Finland and winter war
« on: May 22, 2010, 12:53:25 PM »
Why you cant do Finland to game. And you can do more winter war maps. i live in finland and finland is forgotten country

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 01:02:52 PM »
Well. Like all the time; The Mod CANT IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING and so Devs had to find the best parts based on the historical possibilities.

The finish winter war is an interesting part of the history of the 2nd world war but when we are honest then the finish front is a seperated front and had not so much impact on the hole outcome of the eastern front.

So perhaps Fins would be interesting but out of my view no own faction for the eastern front mod.

When u dont think that i'm right u can present as a concept which shows the user a workable finish coh army.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 03:49:54 PM »
Too much effort to create an entire faction for a relatively small war contibution. And the Winter War was a separate conflict, so no sooner will they implement it than the Spanish Civil War. It is a good idea for another mod team though.

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2010, 09:28:15 PM »
I'm pretty sure they won't add Finnish troops, but its kind of disapointing they don't even add Polish units seeing the invasion of Poland started the war.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2010, 03:39:27 AM »
I see your point, Akalonor, but you must also take into account that Polish troops were EXTREMELY under-armed. They were the last known army to use Calvary Horseback units.

The horses failed miserably to the Reich's MG34s, MG42s, Gr. 81mms, And the tanks.

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2010, 11:51:06 AM »
I'm pretty sure they won't add Finnish troops, but its kind of disapointing they don't even add Polish units seeing the invasion of Poland started the war.

The polish are semi represented in a way by the partisans, as the polish resistance did grow through the war culminating in the warsaw uprsing.

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 12:01:49 PM »
even tough poles were under-armed they managed to keep figthing for 36 days(france survived only 10 days more)and second half of that time they fighted two front war.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2010, 12:29:50 PM »
Well. This is the eastern front, right?
For me and for a lot of other people historical eastern front
started at the 22 june 1941 when the german Wehrmacht attacked the Soviet union.
For me the german invasion of poland and the finish winter war arent battles of the eastern front. The took place at the east but today they arent part of the historical consideration of the eastern front.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 01:30:01 PM »
Well. This is the eastern front, right?
For me and for a lot of other people historical eastern front
started at the 22 june 1941 when the german Wehrmacht attacked the Soviet union.
For me the german invasion of poland and the finish winter war arent battles of the eastern front. The took place at the east but today they arent part of the historical consideration of the eastern front.

I agree although CoH is based in 44 however.

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2010, 04:33:10 PM »
What about having a Finnish themed doctrine in the Ostheer when added, rather than an entirely unique faction?

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2010, 05:14:27 PM »
Like i had already writen;
for me the finish front line isnt part of the topic "eastern front". It was a separated front line with its own combat situations and battles.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2010, 07:43:04 PM »
Like i had already writen;
for me the finish front line isnt part of the topic "eastern front". It was a separated front line with its own combat situations and battles.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2010, 11:52:50 AM »
In wikipedia Finland is in axis side in eastern front battles and Continuation War ended in 1944.

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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2010, 07:19:01 PM »
Well. Part of the axis and war till 1944 is no reason to count them on the eastern front ;)

Like i had already written; it is a separated front with its own history and own situation.

And more point; when we will add the fins then we would get a flame war here at the board because then everyone wants his nation in this mod and that is absolutly impossible.
I had often said that when the Ostheer will get foreigne troops they should get "sbstract names" like nordic volunteers or balkan legionars or thinks like this.
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Re: Finland and winter war
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2010, 07:24:05 PM »
Many people don't view Wikipedia as a viable source.
But I think a way to calm everyone and a dd gameplay diversity would add a Doctrine that was all about Allied Support for Germany, One side would be call-ins , the other bonuses & abilities. The call ins could be something like.

Southern tank Hunters
3 man squad, armed with 1 Grenatbusche 39,
And two MP40's

Balkan Soldiers
5 man squad armed with standard Kar 98's,

Scandinavian Sniper
 Sniper armed with a Scoped Kar98
Something like this perhaps?
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