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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2010, 08:36:02 PM »
Personally I really like the medal idea for Ostheer, pretty much exactly how wordsmith describes it sounds great.
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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2010, 09:54:25 PM »
Soviet veterancy will change the entire infantry of soviet army. It would be strange to have "conscript vet3": they would be logically guards then! I like the way vet is for soviet, but I'm curious about the new stuff dev will bring (hopely soon  ;D ok ok I go out!!).

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2010, 08:44:30 PM »
Honestly, I like the way how "veterancy" works right now. Only the units which are produced after the upgrade get vetted. This makes you reluctant to do everything for keeping your "old" units alive - what causes more casualities on soviet side and mirrors the fact that russian generals did not care that much about losses in men...

Perfect right now.

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2010, 11:24:46 PM »
I really dont care about vet, I really dont. I dont vet my things when am wher. Thats probaly why I am crap with them ;D.
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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2010, 06:28:06 AM »
Honestly, I like the way how "veterancy" works right now. Only the units which are produced after the upgrade get vetted. This makes you reluctant to do everything for keeping your "old" units alive - what causes more casualities on soviet side and mirrors the fact that russian generals did not care that much about losses in men...

Perfect right now.
Except it's only global upgrades right now, not vet. Good players also don't like the fact that it contradicts unit preservation, so that your units on the field that you keep alive aren't as good as new ones built. I don't particularly mind the system though and will love when vet is put in.

I really dont care about vet, I really dont. I dont vet my things when am wher. Thats probaly why I am crap with them ;D.

I would say so seeme. Do you not know the advantage elite armour grens gives? -25% received accuracy and damage taken is immense. Vet 1 on MG42s is absolutely mental, improving their accuracy by about 50% and decreasing their reload timer. Tanks get the equivalent of 15% more health at cheap vet 1. The bonuses are pretty insane. Vet 3 pumas do 50% extra damage, with the upgun they do as much damage as a panzer 4.
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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2010, 02:44:22 AM »
I have an idea, you can buy veterancy for units like upgrades It will be locked by xps. Example unit will kill ten soldiers(and get 20 xp) and now there will show in upgrade slot upgrade(cost 25 mun) for lvl 1. You can buy it or wait until the unit get 20 kills(40 xp) and there will be in upgrade slot vet 2 ugrade(cost 50 mun)...same with lvl 3(60 xp, 75 mun cost, you can set it how you want :)) !!!But you can buy only one vet level. so when you will buy vet 1, you cant buy vet 2 anymore.

picture-example on volks




http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2904.0 - How should look Ostheer to be original

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2010, 04:24:08 PM »
Thats alot of kills for a volksgenider...
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #37 on: July 07, 2010, 07:33:14 PM »
As I said, It's example. I did it only to understand to my idea. Don't care about how many kills you need to get vet3....

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2904.0 - How should look Ostheer to be original

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2010, 09:54:54 PM »
I have an idea, you can buy veterancy for units like upgrades It will be locked by xps. Example unit will kill ten soldiers(and get 20 xp) and now there will show in upgrade slot upgrade(cost 25 mun) for lvl 1. You can buy it or wait until the unit get 20 kills(40 xp) and there will be in upgrade slot vet 2 ugrade(cost 50 mun)...same with lvl 3(60 xp, 75 mun cost, you can set it how you want :)) !!!But you can buy only one vet level. so when you will buy vet 1, you cant buy vet 2 anymore.

picture-example on volks


Its a very good idea man. The prices are for sure to "expensive", they should need about 30 kills to get vet 3.

5->15->30


But in gerneal, very nice one. Also another idea for the ostheer, if the devs got a vet sys for the soviets already.




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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2010, 03:54:09 AM »
Prices are so big cause Russians don't need lot munitions(they dont pay unit abilities/doct abilities) and with those prices they will need to save munitions like other sides.

And don't care about that picture
As I said, It's example. I did it only to understand to my idea. Don't care about how many kills you need to get vet3....
« Last Edit: July 09, 2010, 04:31:12 AM by Unr3aL »

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2904.0 - How should look Ostheer to be original

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2010, 04:23:25 AM »
Prices are so big cause Russians don't need lot munitions(they dont pay unit abilities/doct abilities) and with those prices they will need to save munitions like other side.

And don't care about that picture
As I said, It's example. I did it only to understand to my idea. Don't care about how many kills you need to get vet3....
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I like this way of vet for soviets. In fact I suggested a similar vet for the ostheer i think... a long time ago, but without the kills as requirement; but your idea is very good 8).




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I like this for Ostheer... But I don't know what kind of vet dev's have thought for them, probably neither of these :(.
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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2010, 04:30:08 AM »
I saw your concept with one eye :), but i thought you'll get all three vet types. First Iron, then German...

http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=2904.0 - How should look Ostheer to be original

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2010, 04:46:05 AM »
I think wordsmith is to much like pe and american,but dose seem cool.
The Russians think there sooo tough, wait till the Ostheer comes...

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2010, 04:51:33 AM »
There are 3 more vet posiblities if u get them by fighitng. One vet level, 4 vet level, or 3 vet level(every level means better equipmnet or new ability). But I think that my choosable vet idea is much better then those three.

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Re: Soviet Veterancy
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2010, 08:48:17 AM »
I think wordsmith is to much like pe and american,but dose seem cool.

Yes I was inspired by PE and I like to play PE most - hopefully Ostheer will change that :). But there is difference because my point was that experience is gathered globally and commander gives the veterancy only to units he wants to.

It could be tactical decision f.e. to wait for some heavy tank and then put all XP in form of medals into this new produced tank which didn't even seen combat. But as for big picture you could imagine that the good prestige of commander allowed him to bring some exprienced unit from other part of EF to his battlefield which could explain that this particular unit is vetted even if it didn't participate in ongoing battle.

As stated before, this for me feels more like Ostheer veterancy not Soviet...