OFFICIAL POLL: Removing the original factions plus adding in retreat and vet

[GodlikeDennis]

People keep forgetting that a major part of this game is to recrew not just your own weapons but your enemy's as well. You have to take this into account with removing Brit/PE ability to recrew because stolen MG42s and Paks/AT guns are invaluable for both these factions. If you cannot change these factions then you cannot balance this fact. However, you can balance your own factions and add in mechanics that allow you to salvage the weapons and/or destroy the weapon along with the crew.

[Rikard Blixt]

@revoluzer,

Occupying emplacements that are neutral counts as recrewing.

[Ghost]

as GodlikeDennis mentioned, taking the re-crewing abilities away from PE/british would cause balancing problem for them and if there are no changes to existing factions these problems can't be balanced.
imagine you just paid the fuel and manpower for an 88 flak and a mortar/sniper/artillery strike takes it out. as you cannot re-crew it you would be forced to build another one. but then it could happen again and again. so PE need the re-crewing function. otherwise 88 and flaks would be kind of useless. same goes for british (for them it's not that problematic though).

[wordsmith]

To keep balance recrewing problem could be solved also the other way: don't allow to recrew also for Weh/PE/US/Brit. Then this "ability" would be equal for all...

[Dominic 'Dragon' Cassidy]

Update

The Wehrmacht Terror Propaganda doctrine ability is now working properly against the Russians - forcing a retreat.


1 less reason to add in retreat

[boc120]

Most excellent!

[darkmarc86]

Propaganda war not working was one of the least of our problems in my opinion. Being unable to recrew weapons is a much bigger issue.

[Dominic 'Dragon' Cassidy]

However it was a problem that was fixable.
Compared to the re-crew one that we can either live with, make the most of (prioritise who gets it) or ignore it (cut down to 4 sides).

[Panzer4life]

Why does everyone want to recrew?? Granted I already voted, but since I can't remember which i voted for, i probably went for the wrong one. But anyway, recrewing isn't that big of a deal. Oh, i lost my 88', well then, get over their and blow it up! Then make another later and have a squad guard it. Also, for those who scream, Germans steal SU mortars, if you lost your support units (morats, AT guns, MG, etc), maybe you should have put them in cover, defended them with a squad of infantry, or not rely on them at all.

[Joshua9]

It would be a shame to have to abandon the matchups of PE versus soviet, which I think is pretty interesting if not entirely balanced, and the future ostheer and brit though...

If no other solutions presented themselves, would a third, somewhat bloated option be possible?  What if you had 2 different launchers....one that replaces pe and brit, and one that replaces american and wehr?    I'm sure the complications are endless, and I suppose that all players would have to be using the same version at the same time to play...so I admit, it's a headache...but it would allow people to play any existing faction against the Eastern front factions...though not all combinations for multiplayer would be possible.


By the way,  I thought no retreat universally might be a little extreme, but I certainly thought that it was a good mechanic and that conscripts and commisars not having retreat was a good idea...if prop war works now, then I have no problems with that at all, but the no recrew is a problem still.

[Blackbishop]

Great news!!! . You could blow the weapon if the crew dies... but what about an ability to "booby trap" enemies heavy armament or emplacements?

[comrade2012]

you should definately keep the original factions. Having variety is more fun.

[Blackbishop]

Why does everyone want to recrew?? ...

Well, maybe its today's tendency . In either case, before soviets i usually played with PE so, recrew or not, i don't care about that .

[Soviet_Justice]

Guys, the poll is a little bit unclear because answers a) and d) are intertwined.

a) yes to recrew + yes to ret & vet
d) no to recrew + yes to ret & vet

Therefore, all who voted a) or d) are in favour of retreat & veterancy.

Similar goes for a) and c)

[BDNeon]

Update

The Wehrmacht Terror Propaganda doctrine ability is now working properly against the Russians - forcing a retreat.


1 less reason to add in retreat

Awesome. Does this mean that it's now possible to implement retreat for select units? I'd love to see retreat for the more elite units, though I think conscripts should be left alone.

I honestly don't think recrewing is that big a deal for soviets. After all, they have bigger crews then any other army to compensate, I think that's a good compromise. They lose the ability to steal enemy heavy weapons as well as keep their own, but they are extremely hard to decrew.

As for the Ostheer and weapon crewing/decrewing.... well, let's worry about that when they're gonna be added. Unless they ARE gonna be added in the near future....

GIVE US SOME INFO DARNIT. It's been over 2 weeks since the fake april fools update, we need real news!