OFFICIAL POLL: Removing the original factions plus adding in retreat and vet

[Soviet_Justice]

1. RETREAT
(especially in the early phases of the war), but later, and especially in 1944 (when this game is set!)

the game isn´t set in 1944

The game is obviously set in 1944 and/or '45, since many of the weapons Red Army (and the Germans) use didn't exist in '41 and '42. The campaign (once and if EF team makes it) might be set in some other time.

[BDNeon]

If this mod is to have even the slightest hope of becoming a big hit that appeals to everyone who plays COH, removing any of the original factions will be the death of it.

The fact that all of the original maps and factions are available while playing this mod is what sets it apart from all the other mods for COH. Take that away and this mod is dead.

And honestly the no recrewing function doesn't strike me as big of a deal, and I'm sure you can work around the propaganda war problem. Maybe make it so that it has a different effect on soviets, like increasing their vulnerability to suppression.

[ford_prefect]

CAN WE STOP USING BOLD

oh my goodness guys it looks like a couple of seven year olds yelling at one another. I know I know your gonna say "that's the title idiot" but listen when you put SOMETHING IN BOLD it looks more violent to readers.

[nbeerbower]

SOMETHING IN BOLD it looks more violent to readers

KILL RELIC!!!

But, seriously we need to have some community-organized letter/petition to Relic.

[sovietwarmachine]

wordsmith i like the ostheer you made but the fuel loss is kind of harsh espesialy in 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 maches but other than that great job

[funnyme]

Hi,

Aotomatch  would spice up things ..., Game Compitions,Rakings etc .., That is what a player would like to see .

Think the Decision making could be left to the team ...Simple as it is , Why have a Work around when you have a solution in hand .

It will be nice to see the Outpost concept done away with , I think it would make the game play more fuild ....

Regards
funnyme

[GriffinZ]

Is it possible to make it that instead of recrewing you'll salvage the weapon? Like a mg42 HMG would give your squad a handheld mg42 lmg +manpower? Mortar: lob mortar shells by hand, or rifle nade +MP. AT: pak gives you panzershreck, US gives you bazooka. I would totaly prefer this if it's possible.

[Blist]

But, seriously we need to have some community-organized letter/petition to Relic.

I kinda agree on that

It would be nice if we could make some big community petition or something to relic

[Muaddib]

Regarding the return of the RETREAT BUTTON to make propaganda work, I still think that my solution fits the bill while still maintaining the NO RETREAT policy. from my post before:

Having the retreat button removed to represent the NO RETREAT policy is (IMO) the wrong way to go about it. I suggested that Soviet infantry should still have the retreat button, but should they retreat then they will automatically be considered as Germans (in AI terms) by Soviet and probably other allied units for as long as they are in retreat mode i.e. have that big exclamation point over their heads. The retreating units will automatically be fired upon by Soviet and other allied units (including base defenses) that they cross. If by some miracle they do make it back to the HQ then Soviet players can re-enforce them.

I believe it necessary to actually depict the shooting of retreating units as it would be more realistic and historically accurate rather than taking the shortcut and just removing the retreat button. To my understanding you have in your team a really top notch roster of members, I'm sure someone could make the SCAR code to make this work...

[wordsmith]

CAN WE STOP USING BOLD

oh my goodness guys it looks like a couple of seven year olds yelling at one another. I know I know your gonna say "that's the title idiot" but listen when you put SOMETHING IN BOLD it looks more violent to readers.

I thought that there is difference using bold text or CAPITALS, first is used to mark main ideas so they don't get lost in the text and second is considered as yelling thus unpolite...

wordsmith i like the ostheer you made but the fuel loss is kind of harsh espesialy in 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 maches but other than that great job

Thank you! but please this is not the right topic, please post this to related article and following discussion there I can answer. Btw I have some new idea about Ostheer but I just need a time to think it through and prepare it.

Is it possible to make it that instead of recrewing you'll salvage the weapon? Like a mg42 HMG would give your squad a handheld mg42 lmg +manpower? Mortar: lob mortar shells by hand, or rifle nade +MP. AT: pak gives you panzershreck, US gives you bazooka. I would totaly prefer this if it's possible.

I like this idea, or it could simple be possible to salvage only for resources. One way or another this could be acceptable compromise.

[DrCashpor]

Its kinda sad that Relic dosent even bother to realease a patch that could make the game more "mod freindly"...

shame on you relic slackers!

[comrade_daelin]

I would vote to try it out first, then make a decision. Has the EF team tried removing a faction and all ther other proposed changes and see what happens? I mean its sort of pointles to vote and then realize it couldn't be done in the first place, that sort of thing.

The only real gripe I have with EF now are balancing tweaks for Russia and the fact that they can't recrew their own weapons. They can pick up small arms lying around though.

[BDNeon]

Well I started a thread asking Relic for action on the Company of Heroes forums.

Register and post, maybe it'll grab their attention. I know that admins that report directly to Relic do take a heavy interest on what people say there.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/forums

[BurroDiablo]

Well I started a thread asking Relic for action on the Company of Heroes forums.

Register and post, maybe it'll grab their attention. I know that admins that report directly to Relic do take a heavy interest on what people say there.

http://community.companyofheroes.com/forums

One of our Coders knows the Relic community manager, its him we try and get our pleadings through. We try not to do it too much otherwise they will just get tired and keep ignoring us... being a thorn in Relics side is not the way to go.
However, enough voices from the community pointed in their direction (not hostile, we don't want that) may make them hear us.

[Panzer4life]

Yeah, if the problem can be fixed with a patch from Relic's end of the deal, a hate mongering group of users of this mod would make the Eastern front have less support than it could have.

But if the Commonwealth and the PE have to be removed, then fine. i rather see them remain (i voted for the wrong choice, i meant the one below it), but if Relic continues to ignore this situation, then the only option is to remove the Commonwealth and the PE until they come to help.