PE vs Russians

[Seeme]

Why would America give germmany a bomb?

[Blackbishop]

PE replacement units should replace the near useless purchased assault and tank hunter squads.

+1

[javy52]

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this is true. However the russian infanrtry is much cheaper than the pe infantry and i agree entirely that the g-41s and mp44s are an amazing beast by themselves. I think this whole thing relys on relys to much on rushing for the assault grenadiers and getting the g41 upgrade that cost 50 munitions a piece. Not to mention if the pe blob was hit my the amazing russian mortars then their would not be much left.

This is a silly statement. The mortar statement is a complete "what if?" and the same could be true for any AOE weapon. Saying that it relies on rushing for their advanced techs is also obvious because that is the way PE is designed to tech. PE can get any 2 of their buildings within 5 minutes. Going straight for your best AI weapons would probably be a sound plan if you were currently being beaten by infantry I would think...

MP44s aren't the only effective weapon against Russians anyway. You could instead go a heavy T2 with luftwaffe, using falls as your mainline infantry (which are cheaper to reinforce than PGs, have better guns and start with 4 men) and use various halftracks to supplement your force. If you reinforce on the field you don't need to give up any land to the Russians. Armoured cars are also excellent against the Russians, so long as you have good micro. A P4 rush can also work.

There are certainly other ways to fight the Russian blob as PE, MP44s are just among the most effective.

I see what you mean entirely however Ive seen russian mortars in actoin and they do scare me. I have lately been playin with pe alot and I do believe I have underestimated their inantry especially the g-43s which seem to have gotten better. Tank wise thoguh the russians have a very huge advantage over pe with tanks if it came don to tank to tank battle. Unless you can prtect your marders then there wont be a problem lol. The panzers though just wont cut it agaisnt is-2s and t34s.....

[AbhMkh]

I didnt say that they would give it , i said it would be leased


@ Paciat :- You said it for me

[GodlikeDennis]

PE have a massive weakness against vehicles. This is true against all armies and is a deficit in the PE faction design. I personally think marders are absolutely awful so I go T2-4-3 usually, getting AT halfs crossed with shreks in halftracks. It also puts me on an excellent path for Panthers in the long run if I need them.

[Newbie.]

why don't you try running the Bergetiger over the Russian infantry??


You see , in the 1.2 patch , the PE can lend lease a nuclear bomb from the Americans , the nuclear bomb will either be mounted on a pz 4 and can be driven straight into the russian base where the panzer-grenadiers can detonate it "For the fatherland !! you vodka drinking swine!!!!!"

or the bomb can be put into a henshel me 91 and driven straight into the russian base building in kamikaze style

Thts it , when there will be no base there wont be infantry or any t-34's or is2's

and hence the panzer elite wins...

PE sucks.
They wont get nothing exept a JagdpanzerIV.

What would you rather have when seeing a T-34.. A Wehrmacht Panzer IV or a PE Jagdpanther?

[javy52]

PE have a massive weakness against vehicles. This is true against all armies and is a deficit in the PE faction design. I personally think marders are absolutely awful so I go T2-4-3 usually, getting AT halfs crossed with shreks in halftracks. It also puts me on an excellent path for Panthers in the long run if I need them.

marders locked down will absolutley destroy russian armor. Its as if they get a special bonus or something? Anyways an unsuspecting is-2 is no match for 2 marders. It will kill him before he even knows where its coming from...........

[AbhMkh]

Ohh really the how about a zis 2 firing on your marders , no russian player is foolish enough to send out 600 mp and 120 fuel alone

[GodlikeDennis]

Marders are terrible in 1v1s. They cost far too much fuel and have too slow a turning rate to be effective. Anyone with a brain can circle your marder and destroy you and they cost too much fuel in a fuel burning faction to be mass produced.

[Zerstörer]

Like every other PE unit they are too specialized meaning you need to have 2-3 units always to do one job...
So you can't have just marder for AT or just grens for AT or just At halftrack. You need to have two of these together at all times to work

[ThGermanElite]

Marders and the JagdPanther are fantastic units vs Russian armor, Ive never 1v1 a Russian, but 2v2-4v4 PE Tank Destroyer doc is fantastic, the APS upgrade (from the Doctrine) clearly gives German armor an advantage when they get this. Then once you get 2-3 marders supported by G43s, theres not much that can threaten you...and the BergeTiger driving behind....GG. (Ive been able to get this several times while playing vs Russians, and the Russian players were actually pretty skilled)

[SiriusSupernova]

For me Luftwaffe with T2-T3 seems best in 1v1, [EF version 1.21]


            Added replay also.

[AbhMkh]

Marders are very effectively countered by , AT guns that is mobile AT guns , the armor on the marder is very in fact it is vulnerable to even the ap rounds fired by 30 cal

& I'm truly delighted when my PE opponent chooses Luftwaffe doctrine , its fun to crush him with so much ease , its the weakest of all PE doctrines and is easily countered by all american doctrines and by british commando and churchill doctrine

[SiriusSupernova]

There is no weak doctrines, or something like that , All of three PE doctrines are very useful and good , You cant witstand PE's 88 with your damn AT , Luftwaffe totaly dominates especialy then oponent choses armor(Americans), fast churchil can be stopped very easily And perfect use of wirbelwind Really helps destroying enemy infantry ,... Also Falshirmjagers are perfect against special enemy units like Airborne , Rangers , Commandos,....

[AbhMkh]

  How many games have you played


The PE lf doctrine is generally useful, on smaller maps but i love to earn free vet by killing those poor LGF's with my AC's/rangers/airborne/commandos/churchills and so on , Fjager are useful only against infantry , against armor they are useless as hell

88 is built late in to the game expert players wont even give you an opportunity to build one