Unit - Reward suggestions thread:

[Soldie]

What do you think of the Soviet flamethrower tank? For example, OT-34 OT-34-85, КВ-8?
newbielink:http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_OT-34_flamethrower_tank.html [nonactive]
newbielink:http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?EST-35101 [nonactive]

[Werwolf]

What do you think of the Soviet flamethrower tank? For example, OT-34 OT-34-85, КВ-8?
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_OT-34_flamethrower_tank.html
http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?EST-35101

...wasn't it discussed already in another thread??

[Akalonor]

I agree with Soldie , everyone Ignore WerWolf!

[Newbie.]

I'd now Personally like to see a Ablity for the Tank Hunters to 'Unleash a Anti-tank Dog', A Dog with a AT Mine Straped to it, Works like a Goliath,. But costs Manpower (Like 800MP), But VERY Effective (Unlike in rl, where they charged Soviet Tanks, Gameply Reasons ftw?) No need to show it blowing up, just walk to a tank then a Massive Explosion, To save Moaning from Animal Lovers.

[GodlikeDennis]

Can't animate dogs.

[Ghost]

I'd now Personally like to see a Ablity for the Tank Hunters to 'Unleash a Anti-tank Dog', A Dog with a AT Mine Straped to it, Works like a Goliath,. But costs Manpower (Like 800MP), But VERY Effective (Unlike in rl, where they charged Soviet Tanks, Gameply Reasons ftw?) No need to show it blowing up, just walk to a tank then a Massive Explosion, To save Moaning from Animal Lovers.

not gonna happen. was discussed before. animating them would make devs go insane. just a waste of time and there are more important things on the agenda (other reward units, campaign, ostheer, balancing,...). and as you mentioned in real life they just run under soviet tanks as they were trained to...

[Seeme]

We can take this guy and make him a dog, he looks good for the job 

[SirKuggorna]

We can take this guy and make him a dog, he looks good for the job 

Rofl'd and badly. But why did everyone bury the Marine idea replacing guards? I think it sounds great!

[Blackbishop]

@Lolman112 idea:

Some things for the soviets:

Machinegun team: 3 guy's
2 just rifles
1 DP-28 gunner (only deployable with bipod, so only while lying on the ground or in buildings)

Attachable Comissars:
1 Comissar who can be attached to a unit of infantry.
It can execute someone and let the others fight better (dont know if such already is)

The sovjet-army used the scorcered earth tactic earlier than the germans. The germans have copied it. But it isn't fun to have 2 the same things.

I'll have many idea's for the Ostheer. Ask later if you want them.

Post Merge: August 27, 2010, 09:32:33 PM@GameMan's idea:

Hi!

I think there should be new units to red army like:
Russian motors - like german BMV
Russian HMG - from films. Russians must have a hmg, because in other way they are quite weak in defending.
TRUCK!!!! - on bigger maps Russians can't move fast or smth like that, and they aremy is usally made by infantry. In this case, before Russians will get to enemy, a lot of time passes. Pls add these trucks, it would really help!
Propaganda truck - truck wich would give us morale etc.

Upgrades to units:
Tank hunters - dog. During the Holy War Russians trained dogs to go under the tank, because usually they were able to find some food there. During the battle, they were running to enemy tanks, and then, blowed up(poor dogs ;/). It's not a joke, It's fact. It would be a nice upgrade to tunk hunters. Dog for 50 ammunition. It would work as goliat. For me, geat idea.

Replace:

T-90 - what is it? It's so unknown tank, that it should be removed and replaced with for examble BT tank or any other Russian light tank.


That's all folks!
Thx for listening ;].

[Chasovnikov]

This is a suggestion thread, post your replays at the correct thread.

[Sturmovik]

1.
During entire war, Soviet Army improvise with defence & attack technics & tactics. To help withstand for hard deadly blitzkrieg tank attacks, and then, crush german defence lines, russian engineers repair & throw to the frontlines Throphy Nazi tanks, infantry carriers, Selfpropelled artillery.
Pz II, III, IV, V, VI. StuG III, IV.
In 1944-45, Russian Strike Army, tank company have armed with Tiger & Panther heavy tanks.

In hard war years 1942-1943, can be whole tank platoons, in case for heavy loses have bee rearmed with german tanks/

My suggestion - Wy not, if Soviet Red Army having reward - trophy Panther & Tiger tanks? (Propaganda strategy)

Trophy Panther
(http://slfed.narod.ru/Photo/Panter.jpg)
Tiger
(http://waffen.ucoz.ru/_nw/40/79472917.jpg)
Stug IV
(http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/galleries/axiscaptured/SPG/StuG/StuK40_L48_pic1.jpg)

2.
Russian strategy during Great War for the Motherland, have a critical tactical tradition. In hard frontline times, during hard battles,Staff of the red army send to the last stand comrades help of the mechanised during 1942, or in 1943 Tank corpses.
That wil be helpfull & realistic. Marshall Rybalko Рыбалко П.С., twise Hero of the Soviet Union. Iron comandarm.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/4/40/Pavel_Rybalko.jpg)
Command with 5th / June 1942, 3th/ october 1942 & 3th guard from may 1943 tank armies.
Battle for Dnepr, Kursk mass tank battle, Charkov (1943), Kiev, Jitomir, Proskurov, Lvov, Dresden, Praha, Berlin.
During Lvov- Sandomirsk operation, Rybalko Tank Army save live of the Lvov city from destruction.
Marshall Konev with Rybalko tanks can capturing Berlin, but global strategy "cards" of the general staff will already draw...

Why not, SA will have tank platoon help from Rybalko veteran tank army? (Tank strategy)
Post Merge: September 04, 2010, 08:27:55 AM3. Another point.
What if. Russian tank hall & support structure (especially tank hall) in the  beginning can take for the frontline begin war technology:
- KV
- T-34
SU-85/76
Than, via reward points player can make improvement for the tanks & SAU
- KV-2/KV-85
- Т-34-76
- IS-1
- SU-100
- SU-122 (http://www.kursk1943.mil.ru/kursk/tw/afv/s_spg_su122.jpg)
+ heavy defence buildings like MG bunker, Tank turrets & others
(http://www.vn-parabellum.com/images/fort-sov-turret-pb_20.jpg)
(http://www.vn-parabellum.com/images/fort-sov-turret-pb_5.jpg)
(http://www.vn-parabellum.com/images/fort-sov-turret-pb_17.jpg)
(http://www.vn-parabellum.com/images/fort-sov-turret-pb_23.jpg)
(http://www.vn-parabellum.com/images/fort-t34-turret-pb-0_1.jpg)

In the final stage, reward can improve tank hall for last stage war machines.
- IS-2/3
- T-34-85
- SU-100 + SU-152

4.
Anti-tank guns (especially ZIS-2), using Armour-piercing discarding sabot can penetrate heavy armouring targets.
(ZIS-2/ 500m - penetrate 147mm, 1,5km - 100mm)
Good for AT-guns take special ability "Use APDS Ammo".

[Sturmovik]

Suggestion lines:

Infantry Division
- Heavy defence fortifitions
- Black coats (Black davils)
- Heavy battalion artillery installations & mortar inst.
- Heavy Mobile seige artillery call outs

Strike/Tank army
- Unique tank science (IS-3, KV-2)
- Throphy tanks call outs
- Heavy SU units produse (ISU-122, ISU-152)
- Heavy tanks reinforcements

NKVD
- Propaganda with loudspeaker
- NKVD infantry & mechanased units
- Sniper veteran call out
- BM-31-12

What about that lines?

[GodlikeDennis]

You realise the Soviet Union has been released for some time and you're asking for total redesign?

Stick to the unit suggestions mate.

[Zerstörer]

You realise the Soviet Union has been released for some time and you're asking for total redesign?

Stick to the unit suggestions mate.

+1

Cramming in as many random units as possible just because they existed in ww2 is a baaaaaad idea. There is something called 'redundant' when you have multiple units that look different but all have the same role. Also, what's the point of a faction if it has everything every other faction gets and where a doctrine doesn't offer genuine change over the other two in gameplay

[Sturmovik]

You realise the Soviet Union has been released for some time and you're asking for total redesign?

Stick to the unit suggestions mate.

It is good "near hstorical" correction.