Unit - Reward suggestions thread:

[guynumber7]

One thing I never got, id how a 57mm can kick the spit out of a Pzr IV?

It (Zis-2)had long barrel which enabled higher velocity. A smaller shell going very fast.

ALso i would sugest the Zis 30 over some made up halftrack. The ZIS30 was a Koslomoldets armorwed tractor with a Zis2 stuck on it.

[Newbie.]

Mk. III Valentine. British Made Tank supplied to the red army.

Has a 6-Pdr. Gun that is effective against tanks such as: StuG IV, Marder III, Panzer IV IST, Hetzer [Side Armour] and the StuH 42/Hummel.
Acts as a fast moving tank, with a Upgrades including the new 75mm Gun [ The Mk XI] Making it effective with more powerful tanks like the Panzer IV and Hetzer's frontal armour.
Cost: 600MP. 7 Pop Cap. 60 Fuel.

Ability: Fire HE Round [10 Fuel] Fire's a HE Round, effective against infantry.

Upgrade Cost: Side Armour: 20 Fuel.
                    Bren Gunner: Makes a bren gunner act as a Infantry support weapon GPMG on the Tank. 10 MP: 30 Fuel.
             MK. XI: 60 Fuel. 2 Pop Cap.

Polish Soviet Army Troops [Reward - Replace Strelky ]

Armed with a Mosin-Nagat, move fast and have Frantical Morale, but won't run at troops like Conscripts. Veterans of the 1939 Invasion. Can be upgraded with a KIS SMG or Wz. 30 MG, or, even the Wz. 35 Anti-Tank Rifle.
Comes in a squad of 5.
Cost: 120 MP: 0 Fuel. 6 PopCap.

Ability: SUPPRESSING FIRE! [KIS] Suppress a enemy for a short time. 20 MP.
           AP ROUND!: [Wz. 35] Fire's a AP Round, that automatic destroys a part of a vehicle. 50 Fuel.
          DIG IN! [Wz. 30] Dig's in the unit, making it less valuable to damage.
           CHARGE! [Any]: Lead's a Calvary like charge, making the unit unable to fire, but move quickly without suppression. [30 MP]

Upgrade cost:
Wz. 35: 10 Fuel. 75 Munition.
Wz. 30: 10 Fuel. 75 Munition.
KIS: 5 Fuel. 70 Munition.
Hand Grenades: 15 Fuel. 50 MP.

[Raider217]

Fairly sure that lend lease vehicles from american, brits etc are a no go

[WartyX]

Lend-Lease from the Allies is acceptable, in fact our Katyusha is carried on an American lorry. We just want to avoid using familiar units if we can.

[Zerstörer]

Soviets were the largest users of the the Valentine Tank. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2,394 of the British models being sent and 1,388 of the Canadian Pacific built models. That's from a total of 7300...more than half in soviet hands! With a total number of 3800 tanks...it was more numerous than many of the tank types produced by the Germans through the war!
It was also very successful and popular with the Soviet army, much like the Sherman.
What concerns its reliability and durability lets refer to one example: at the beginning of Melitopol Offensive Operation (October 24, 1943) the 19th Tank Corps had 101 T-34-76  and 63 Valentine tanks. During a battles the Corps lost 78 of T-34's and 17 Valentines tanks while all tanks used with more or less equal intensity

Personally, its one tank I'd love to see in EF. It was a slow well armoured infantry tank taht was quite poor vs infantry due to the main gin being 2pdr-6pdr depending on the model

[Newbie.]

The Valentine, wasn't the only tank in Soviet service. Many soviet tanks were taken off British Ideas. Example: T-90 was based heavily off the Carden-Loyd Tankette [That i'd also like to see] and the Vickers Light tank,

EDIT: Also, a upgrade for the partisans giving them the PPD-40 SMG?

[ColonelMolotov]

Hi comrades,

 I've been following the forums for a long time without intervening, mostly by lack of having something to say (beyond "great mod", of course), but I feel like someone is being unfairly forgotten here : where has Naval Infantry gone ?
 There was once a topic about the opportunity of having them as a reward unit, replacing either Guards or Partisans (IMO, they should replace Guards), and someone even showed a terrific screenshot featuring a fully-skinned Black Sea Marine, in his distinctive black uniform with ammo belts. But since then (more than two months ago, I think), they've gone into oblivion, and this thread seems almost only about tanks.
 So the aim of this modest contribution is just to remind people of their existence, because I think they would definitely fit in great on maps like Leningrad or Sevastopol, and there seems to be already a great skin ready for them, so I guess I wouldn't be too much work to implement them in any upcoming patch.

 Thanks for reading me !

[S1lv3rWolf]

Most of the reward units in vCoH are currently vehicles, having Marine troops as a reward unit would bring something new to the whole reward scheme So I agree with the idea of bringing marines into the game as replacing the Guards.

[Seeme]

The soveits had a navy?!?

[ColonelMolotov]

 Well, yes, and a large one : North Sea Fleet, Baltic Fleet, Black Sea Fleet, Pacific Ocean Fleet. Although the surface ships themselves proved quite useless (with the exception of Baltic Fleet, whose naval artillery was key in the defence of Leningrad), the submarines did quite well ; actually, the most deadly naval catastrophe of all times was the sinking of the ship Wilhelm Gustoff by the soviet submarine S-13 in 1945, when almost 9400 people got killed (mostly refugees).
 Anyway, Naval Infantry played a role in many land battles : Leningrad, Stalingrad, Sevastopol, Moscow (I think so)... There's kind of a dispute amongst historians about wether or not they were good fighters, but propaganda was quite enthusiastic about them, and most important : they had a hell of a style and a beautiful uniform !


EDIT : There, I found this one skin I was talking about :



There is some clipping around the ammo belts, but all in all, they look awesome.

[Akalonor]

I think this is avery good Idea, PE get luftwaffe ground forces, US get Airborne why not give soviets Marines.

[Versedhorison]

well the soviets do have partisans and gaurds and tank riders but those skins do look cool.

[Paciat]

If Marines will replace (swap) gaurds they shouldnt be so tough. Theyre blue uniforms can be seen from dstance.

They need an ability or a weapon to make theyre offensive stats better while their HP will be lowered.
Strelky allready have sprint LMGs and SMGs, command squads fire-up is used.
Camo in blue uniforms sounds dumb.
They could move faster thru water and have better defensive stats in it but thats not a big buff.

Anybody has an idea what will make Soviet Marines unique?

[ColonelMolotov]

- Actually, their uniform was black but never mind -

 Well, maybe we could look at the archetype and see what to do with it : in soviet propaganda, they're usually associated with defense to the death and man against tank. How about anti-tank Molotov Cocktails (destroying engine, maybe), and a passive ability similar to the Wehrmacht Terror Doctrine "Zeal" : the more losses in the squad, the more resilient the survivors become ?
 They could be armed with rifles, either Mosin-Nagan, or SVT-40, maybe the second being an upgrade, and have grenades.

 This would eventually make a rather versatile defensive unit, keen on self-sacrifice. How about that ?

EDIT : Just to support my words, a soviet propaganda poster featuring marines :

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[Seeme]

I like it