Unit - Reward suggestions thread:

[Zerstörer]

ISUs(both 152/122) were designated assault guns not tank destroyers. However, like the stug, they doubled as TDs simply because the thick armour,low profile and powerful gun which makes them excellent at ambushing tanks.
The 152 didn't use AP shells simply because it didn't need to. The tank would engage in direct fire targets up to 1000m where the impact and explosion of the shell would cause catastrophic damage to tanks even if it didn't penetrate, regardless of their armour. Infact as an 155 arty shell it could land next to the target tank and still do massive damage and disable it.

[BurroDiablo]

In game though Widow, we can't just give the ISU some HE death bringing doom shells, conquering everything it comes across, man and machine alike.
It did use pure AT shells at a point (although they were very rare), but certainly not all the time like we have in game right now... its current AT role right now should be buffed and reserved (the Soviets can already build SU-85's and SU-100's ffs) to a special ability, in the mean time the ISU should be given inaccurate HE primitives, with a long shot Howie ability. This will make the ISU a multi-purpose Tank and much more valuable than it is right now in its pure AT role.

[Zerstörer]

In game... at best...it could work like a KT...aka good all rounder but not as tough...Firing more devastating AP/HE shells than a KT, but at the slower rate to compensate

[sandycaesar]

Two cents' worth: I've seen ideas of a wheeled machine gun unit, like a Maxim or a DshKM on an AT gun chassis. Is that still on the table as a reward unit - perhaps replacing the ZiS-2 or the Tank Hunters?

[Akalonor]

Well Zis & Tank hunters are AT, not Anti Infantry,if to replace anything I'd say the Dugouts in Propoganda doctrine.

[Cranialwizard]

Hell no! I like my dugouts 

It's the only possible way of suppressing enemy infantry other than DP-28s(Which even then is risky) and barrages!

[Akalonor]

No, not the MG dugouts, what am I thinking of.........hmm the Shacks that are garrisonable is what I meant.

[BurroDiablo]

Two cents' worth: I've seen ideas of a wheeled machine gun unit, like a Maxim or a DshKM on an AT gun chassis. Is that still on the table as a reward unit - perhaps replacing the ZiS-2 or the Tank Hunters?

Building a MG model on an AT gun chassis would look crap.
We have a DShK tripod that only needs animated. It will probably be added to dugouts in the future, and as a reward unit if you're lucky.

[Akalonor]

Too bad I'm very unlucky.

[Cranialwizard]

Oh, I see. The Outpost?

Well, the only REASON I would like them to be removed is if the Soviets can HQ buildings. Otherwise you'd be in trouble if you're like me and use the *Blow up chokepoints and only let the enemies in one way, but defend that one way WITH YOUR LIFE*

[comrade2012]

I made a suggestion for the Ostheer to have the ability to have a buildable HQ, which I thought would be unique and cool.

I could see the Russians having that same ability too.

[Akalonor]

Maybe the outpost.... I can't remember, I'll have to go play it and see.

[comrade2012]

the Outpost cannot create troops. When in my idea, the buildable HQ would actually be able to create troops, like the American and Wehrmachct forward HQs.

[LeaderH]

a SU57 as a reward unit to replace the zis AT gun, a mobile version like the marder, with a 57mm gun on a M3 halftruck.

[Akalonor]

One thing I never got, id how a 57mm can kick the spit out of a Pzr IV?