Unit - Reward suggestions thread:

[FallBarbarossa]

I'm also opposed to the ace units.

[IGobux]

How about letting the luftwaffe officer have no weapon at all but the abilety to pick one up?

[Svarog_CDO]

Hi everbody, I'm new on this forum, first I'd like to thank the modders for their wonderful work! Then excuse me for eventual grammatical mistakes, I'm French.

However since the last patch introducing the OstHeer and modifications to the Red Army, i'd like to suggest some modifications that seem logic to me:

-the new penal units system is weird: why would brave conscripts/recruits units be suddenly changed in an unit composed of desertors, and condemned soldiers? The former way to recruit them was much more correct, in adequation with the soviet strategy: they were "sent" to the front. And having a kommisar to command them and strelkys acting as a blocking unit preventing from desertion was great! So I wonder if you could reintroduce the former penal units; recruitable in a building or as a capacity. To my mind it would be much more correct.

-Modifications brought to partisans are great! But as their description shows: they are guerilla units. So I wonder if they shouldn't; because they fight "behind ennemy lines" and in order to rebalance their lacks in close combat, have a camo system, the same as sharpshooters, allowing them to move discretly to their target.

One more time: thanks to the whole team for this great mod! And have a nice day!

[Hendrik 'DarcReaver' S.]

Hi everbody, I'm new on this forum, first I'd like to thank the modders for their wonderful work! Then excuse me for eventual grammatical mistakes, I'm French.

However since the last patch introducing the OstHeer and modifications to the Red Army, i'd like to suggest some modifications that seem logic to me:

-the new penal units system is weird: why would brave conscripts/recruits units be suddenly changed in an unit composed of desertors, and condemned soldiers?

Commissars were forced to create Penal units for every part of the Eastern front with Order No. 227. It didn't matter if the units were desertors or condemned. They were just issued to become penals. That's why "Not One Step Back!" (which is based on Stalin's Order No. 227) enables the Strafnies.

The former way to recruit them was much more correct, in adequation with the soviet strategy: they were "sent" to the front. And having a kommisar to command them and strelkys acting as a blocking unit preventing from desertion was great! So I wonder if you could reintroduce the former penal units; recruitable in a building or as a capacity. To my mind it would be much more correct.

The Strafnie upgrade itself is brought in for gameplay reasons: Propaganda is supposed to reflect the huge "Human Wave" tactics from the Soviets early in the war, with masses of cheap conscripts pushing forward and defending territory with huge losses, but they're inexpensive since they are cheap to reinforce etc.

The Stafnie upgrade gives Conscripts a better way to scale into the midgame, so you can use them as a placeholder infantry until you can get either Navals and/or Guards.

-Modifications brought to partisans are great! But as their description shows: they are guerilla units. So I wonder if they shouldn't; because they fight "behind ennemy lines" and in order to rebalance their lacks in close combat, have a camo system, the same as sharpshooters, allowing them to move discretly to their target.

One more time: thanks to the whole team for this great mod! And have a nice day!

thx And yes, Partisans have camouflage to sneak around in enemy territory.

[Blackbishop]

He means if Partisans are fine as it, because in his opinion they don't feel like a guerrilla unit any more.

[JuhwannX]

Well the thing about Partisans is that they're the purest level of a glass cannon. There are plenty of times I've had partisans get right up to a landser and then get wrecked. They need support of a larger army, or a second partisan group, to help them out. When they're supported well, they're great line breakers/behind the line fighters. If you try to use them in your defensive lines, you're basically asking for a bleeding partisan. Especially considering their vet and the conscripts vet are the same.

[777mais777]

May be for SSSR will you make command tank or new system rang of tanks?

[BffWithDEATH]

KPV heavy machine guns in ZPU-4 quad anti-aircraft mounting 14.5x114mm

[Jeff 'Robotnik' W.]

KPV heavy machine guns in ZPU-4 quad anti-aircraft mounting 14.5x114mm

Those were created after the war

Though the soviets did have 25mm and 37mm AA guns which performed a similar role, and quad maxim AA guns

[Tom]

Would be nice to have mg gunners on heavy tanks like tiger and the Is2. Also a reward unit for the ISU 152 would be great.

[Jeff 'Robotnik' W.]

Would be nice to have mg gunners on heavy tanks like tiger and the Is2. Also a reward unit for the ISU 152 would be great.

We have that planned for when we make the updated soviet models

[Walentin 'Walki' L.]

Would be nice to have mg gunners on heavy tanks like tiger and the Is2. Also a reward unit for the ISU 152 would be great.

We have that planned for when we make the updated soviet models

... furthermore the Ostheer Tiger has a MG Gunner (Radio Vet 2)

[Todstyak]

They should be powerful inf- but only limited to 3 the whole game.

Please no unitcaps! They drive me insane!

[BffWithDEATH]

AVT-40 kinda like an SVT-40 but it's fully automatic

[The Soldier]

The AVT-40 couldn't handle the extreme recoil of automatic fire - it literally fell apart.  So, me thinks that won't be a nice choice of weaponry for Yuri.