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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2010, 12:08:45 AM »
See, Comrade realises the T-28 is needed.
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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2010, 02:02:39 PM »
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I think the T-28 would be cool. It would be kinda like the "churchill" of the Russians, great for infantry support
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Errmmm...NO. You got it all wrong. T28 was an obsolete tank design and were all pretty much wiped out in the first two months of the war. So its like it never took part in ww2.

Churchill was a heavy tank used from 42-45 and boasted some monstrously heavy frontal armour of 150 mm in the last models. Its comparable to the KV1, both tanks being too heavy, too slow, mechanically unreliable, very heavy armour and what amounted to a piss poor gun to fulfill the role of a heavy tank after 1942.
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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2010, 03:16:30 PM »
T-28 is nothing more than a novelty Tank, like the T-35 or SMK. CoH cannot really simulate how utterly crap they were, unless you want us to code them to breakdown every 2 feet.

KV-2 is the only novelty tank we have in the game right now, and even that will be replaced with an SU-122 at a later date.

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2010, 08:19:20 PM »
Well, the churchill had a "piss poor" gun too. All I was tying to say, was that they were designed for similar purposes. Also, who cares if it was only active in the early months of the war. This game covers 1941-1945, so it would be fine.

Also, I am aware that the t-28/t-35 had bad armor. (It was hardly two inches actually). But for the sake of gameplay, they armor could be increased a little. I just think that it would be a cool new aspect to add to the Russians, give them some more variety.
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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2010, 10:21:05 PM »
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Also, who cares if it was only active in the early months of the war. This game covers 1941-1945, so it would be fine.

We care for a start, the majority of them were wiped out in the first few months of the war... they are very VERY early war. We'd rather use our spare time getting more 'useful' and 'popular' vehicles in the game, instead of these useless multi-turreted dinosaurs, we don't even know if animating multi-turrets is at all possible yet (if we did, the IS-2 would have a working back MG)

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2010, 10:28:29 PM »
We care for a start, the majority of them were wiped out in the first few months of the war... they are very VERY early war. We'd rather use our spare time getting more 'useful' and 'popular' vehicles in the game, instead of these useless multi-turreted dinosaurs, we don't even know if animating multi-turrets is at all possible yet (if we did, the IS-2 would have a working back MG)

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2010, 01:28:09 AM »
Who cares?? There is already  stuff in the game that was hardly used, like the IS-2. It wasnt used until the very last months of the war. Or the V1, it was only used against London. Or the Pershing, It didnt appear until early 1945.

However, if it cant be done, it cant be done. If you cant do all the animated turrets, then we might as well not even think about it at all.
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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2010, 02:01:13 AM »
instead of these useless multi-turreted dinosaurs, we don't even know if animating multi-turrets is at all possible yet (if we did, the IS-2 would have a working back MG)

Doesn't the WWI mod have working multi-turrets? You guys should consider contacting them...

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2010, 02:03:11 AM »
WWI mod ?
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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2010, 02:06:15 AM »
WWI mod ?

Yeah, this one [nofollow].

Look at the image comments, apparently the side-turrets work.

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2010, 03:26:08 AM »
Who cares?? There is already  stuff in the game that was hardly used, like the IS-2. It wasnt used until the very last months of the war

IS-2 came into use 14 months before the end of the war, it was numerous, successful and has a use in game (countering Axis heavy tanks). T-28/T-35/SMK were neither numerous, nor successful, nor would they have any real use in game.

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Or the V1, it was only used against London. Or the Pershing, It didnt appear until early 1945.

These are Relics choices, not ours.

instead of these useless multi-turreted dinosaurs, we don't even know if animating multi-turrets is at all possible yet (if we did, the IS-2 would have a working back MG)

Doesn't the WWI mod have working multi-turrets? You guys should consider contacting them...

I'm sure Hartkeks will work it out... if he ever gets round to coming back and sticking some work in. If not, it'll probably be up to me...

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2010, 12:08:21 PM »
Who cares?? There is already  stuff in the game that was hardly used, like the IS-2. It wasnt used until the very last months of the war

IS-2 came into use 14 months before the end of the war, it was numerous, successful and has a use in game (countering Axis heavy tanks). T-28/T-35/SMK were neither numerous, nor successful, nor would they have any real use in game.

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Or the V1, it was only used against London. Or the Pershing, It didnt appear until early 1945.

These are Relics choices, not ours.

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2010, 09:44:20 PM »
Lets cool down this senseless conversation. In fact these tanks were somehow cool just as burro called them "dinosaurs" X-D but yet they arent doable and a sensefull and historical acurate use is pretty hard to do.

KV-2 is the only novelty tank we have in the game right now, and even that will be replaced with an SU-122 at a later date.

We gotta love you for that.
But will it actually replace it or will it be a reward unit?

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2010, 09:55:40 PM »
Yeah, I mean rewards. We wouldn't remove a perfectly working Tank.

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Re: What The soviets need to be completed !
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2010, 10:29:05 PM »
Yeah, I mean rewards. We wouldn't remove a perfectly working Tank.

This is right what i think.
Still keep up the good work. Im really looking forward to this unit  :-*