Unit suggestion thread:

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

Both of those are AT units. The units have to replace a unit that has the same general role.

Correct. Brummbär is the OHs Blob decimator, so Möbelwagen would be a good replacement. I don't think adding this is neccesary though because OH already has enough AA units (SdKfz 251/17, Flak 38).

[Mr.ious.Q]

Not anti air but also light vehicles like M8, M3 stuart, T-70-90. The mobelwagen's roll should be like the Ostwind but it has an extra raisable shield that could be modernized in the OH modernization.

[Max 'DonXavi' von B.]

What do you mean by modernized? The Möbelwagen was built with shields.

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

i must say i dont see any need for this unit "Möbelwagen" (i dont mean that the unit istself is crap) but we have alredy a halftrack with flak upgrade (anti inf anti air), a stug III (anti tank maybe anti inf?) and the brumbär (anti inf anti emplacement)

so if there is a reward unit of Brumbär i think it should be another unit which work totaly different to the brumbär

maybe as reward stormpioneers can build the Schwere Feldhaubitze 18

[Ghost]

with shields up -> AA only
with shields down -> AA and AI
(would be realistic)

[Mr.ious.Q]

@ evilSpike so what will encounter fast moving light tanks like the T-70-90 and have better armor than the Luch ?

[pariah]

with shields up -> AA only
with shields down -> AA and AI
(would be realistic)

Would also be stupid.

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

@ evilSpike so what will encounter fast moving light tanks like the T-70-90 and have better armor than the Luch ?

ok we are still talking about a reward unit for the brumbär right?
if not sorry^^
as a reward for the luchs hm... i this its not the same as the luchs but it would be a nice alternative. the SdKfz 251/22 Pakwagen


higher range than luchs and more damage output but therefor much lower armor

[Blackbishop]

That looks like a mobile pak38 for tier 2 IMO... i think there are better stuff to choice for the Luchs if we would add a reward unit for it (IMO it doesn't need a reward unit).

[Mr.ious.Q]

@ evilspike. Sorry i was talking about replacing the Marder 2, i just used the Luch for example and after i read the OH sneak peak, i don't know if the Luch and the Sdk. 251/17 with Flak-38 is meant to be an AA vehicle ( i thought they can AA) because the description doasn't include this ability for them. BTW the SdKfz 251/22 Pakwagen is a nice vehicle to replace the Luch since the player has 2 optiions are AT or AI.

[Blackbishop]

About the 251/17 acting as AA support... I thought that was obvious, so I didnt write it. I don't consider that as an ability, but as a feature.

The sdkfz. 251/22 doesn't fit with the concept of modernization to be the replacement of the Luchs .

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

it was only an exemple^^

i dont think that the luchs need a reward, also the marder dont need one i think

[Mr.ious.Q]

Or maybe the sdkfz. 251/22  is a modernization for the troops transport XD. I mean from the troops transport you can upgrade to the 251/17 or to the 251/22.

[pariah]

That looks like a mobile pak38 for tier 2 IMO... i think there are better stuff to choice for the Luchs if we would add a reward unit for it (IMO it doesn't need a reward unit).

How do you decide whether a unit needs a reward unit or not?

[Alexander 'ApeMen' J.]

i would say we can think about reward units for ostheer after the release

maybe we had some nice ideas after starting the balancing or in the beta... but atm without testign existing units its not the best idea to talk about reward units for units you dont know how they work ingame


@Mr.Q iirc
the halftrack flak upgrade is atm the modernisation upgrade^^