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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2010, 06:07:37 AM »
Question-What about the Lion Tank (Lowe) heres a clip of info
-Leichter Löwe – crew of five, 1000-hp engine, weight of 76 tons, 100-mm frontal armor, rear-mounted turret, 105 mm L/70 high velocity gun and a coaxial machine gun, top speed 27 km/h.
How about as a Doctrinal call-in costs about    1200 Mp with 12 pop
??(It stays just barely under 80 ton limit :D)

You want this piece of shit in the Ostheer but not the Panzer IV? This isn't the RTS version of Wolfenstein, ok? God help me.
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That tank was never built like the Monster and "little brothers". I think Panzer IV and Panther are like a standard for Wehrmacht, i think they should be in, but devs have the call.

In other hand, maybe if devs have some time to spare  ;)... the maus could be included in a mission before arrive to Berlin... of course... represented as it should... as a failure... after all something like that really happen; even that could be the trigger to get a medal "destroy the three garbage tanks" ;D.
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2010, 02:41:10 AM »
Hey everyone here is a Tech tree idea I had. [...]
Unit suggestion thread, so wrong thread  ;D

anyway:

@Mobile 'Nut Cracker' Flak 88: was discussed before
Nah, you just don't get that a Tiger 1 was armed with the flak 88 and the reason the coh 88 has that range is because its a structure that doesn't move and can be killed easily....not even relic would make these mobile and these guys are full of bad ideas lol

@Objective Secured: guess you mean in 50% time and not with 50% speed  :P

@snipers: do they cloak when in cover or as an ability?
Abilities:
Stats:
His experience lets him cloak at max rate (normal snipers in green cover), even when he has no cover.
Has the sight range of a recon unit (jeep or motorbike), with the same detection, however, when he moves camouflaged, it is 25% movement speed. (25% slower than regular snipers)

@Bigger is Better: tigers already have a 88mm gun, panthers simply never had it  ::) only the schmalturm design for the panther2 which was never built
Bigger is Better:
(Passive)
All heavy tanks (Panthers and Tigers) have 88 mm cannon.
But Armor costs 10% more fuel to create.

@tiger gruppen: would it really be possible to have 3 tiger1 and one tiger2 at the same time??? balance  :o
4 CPT
Cost: 1,000 mp (220 fuel over 1 min time) Must be able to afford fuel
Only 1 Tiger-gruppe on the field at one time.
Tiger-Gruppe:
Call in 2 Tiger I tanks to the field.

5 CPT
Cost: 1,200 mp (260 fuel over 1 min time) Must be able to afford fuel
Call in once per battle.
Große Tiger-Gruppe:
Call in 1 Tiger I and 1 Tiger II (King tiger) to the field.
Jagd[tiger] is a buildable replacement for the Kettenkrad... It can cloak and cap points. :P

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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2010, 07:40:11 AM »
 3 tiger1 and a King tiger? OP by all means. Not even a fleet of Is-2 and Isu-152 could hold that force off. Also, something to consider;

While Kursk was the largest tank battle in the world, the main thing was the Tiger tank/Panther tanks, along with deidacted tank destroyers for the Germans, and T34/AT mines for the Russians. So a King tiger wouldn't even be in the battle. Second, Leningrad was surrounded, so Germany didn't really need to airdrop supplies for their forces, better use for the Stalingrad idea.
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2010, 12:14:36 AM »
Panzer 3 variant with Artillery spotter:
http://www.panzer-reich.co.uk/beobachtungswagen-3.htm

And an idea to get rid of the crappy recruing system, don't put Pak-s or HMG's, or Mortars, like the PE hasn't, and there is a lot of light units that carries mortars and 50 cm Paks. For example:
http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/tanks/tanks-n-p/26924/view/panzerjager_i_4_7cm/
The Bison would be great.
http://www.missing-lynx.com/reviews/german/dml6259areviewcs_1.html
http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/tanks/tanks-a/21408/view/10_5cm_lefh18%28sf%29_self-propelled_gun_h36%28f%29/
These units had to locked down to shoot, like the Hummel.

I don't know if they were in the EF, just a quick idea.

Edit: links were dead.
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2010, 01:54:59 AM »
Some common eastern front units that saw a lot of action were Fallschirmjager ground troops. They had a reputation for being tough defensive units.

Not sure as to the ground weapon load-out, but Ostheer might have some Fallschirmjager as a troop selection somewhere in the tree.

If we're looking for types of troops unique from CoH's Wehr and PE, then the aforementioned stormtroopers need to be considered. Assault rifles and grenades.

Also a simple heer infanterie unit. Kar98 rifles, grenades, and maybe some AT grenades.

Gebirgsjager were mentioned and should receive consideration.

Also a suggestion I made somewhere else: Grossdeutschland troops. They were extremely well-equipped and received priority supplies much like the Waffen units.

Possible unit could be "Waffen Grenadiers," another name for an SS unit for the purposes of equipment. A squad of these wearing the camo uniforms could "stealth". I believe there is a doctrinal CoH unit that does this.

Tanks: seen some great suggestions and the poll tells its own story. But a cheap PzIII (J?) would be wonderful to see. The PzIV and Tiger should be standard purchases. Eastern front saw a lot of SP-gun usage, so StuGs should also be available.

Maybe the doctrine tree could include the guns we think are too limited, such as the Brummbar or Sturmtiger.

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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2010, 02:26:49 PM »
what about Slovakia recon squad 4 - 5 man squad all have vz 24 rifle and can be upgraded to vz 26 light machine gun (two rifles are replaced by LMG) for 50 - 75 munition after that upgrade are troops able to call in artillery barage since Slovakia use howitzers and guns on eastern front such as

10 cm howitzer vz. 30
10.5 cm Gun model 35
15 cm Heavy howitzer model 25
Skoda K-series 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 37(t)

so what do you think?

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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2010, 09:06:12 PM »
My Infantry suggestion

-Flammtrupp- Heavy flame troops able to deploy  Abwehrflammenwerfer 42 (Flame mine)
350mp 10f 4pop(4man)

-Stosstrupp- Heavy infantry armed with Kar98 can be upgraded with FG42(75mu)
400mp 4pop

-Doctrinal basic infantry(build comm array to order buildings)
Option
1=1st panzer division
2=Finnish army call-in(volks. skin)
3-273rd reserve panzer division

-Luftwaffe officer-calls in paratroopers- armed with Walter 38- 200mp 1pop(300mp per paratrooper squad)

-Sniper squad-4 man sniper group 2spotters 2 shooters, 1 spotter dies only 1 shooter(yes a copy of Russians but still why not?)cloaking up to 15 meters 
400mp 4 pop


so? criticism welcome, I need a good laugh.
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #67 on: March 16, 2010, 07:45:16 AM »
My Infantry suggestion

-Flammtrupp- Heavy flame troops able to deploy  Abwehrflammenwerfer 42 (Flame mine)
350mp 10f 4pop(4man)

-Stosstrupp- Heavy infantry armed with Kar98 can be upgraded with FG42(75mu)
400mp 4pop

-Doctrinal basic infantry(build comm array to order buildings)
Option
1=1st panzer division
2=Finnish army call-in(volks. skin)
3-273rd reserve panzer division

-Luftwaffe officer-calls in paratroopers- armed with Walter 38- 200mp 1pop(300mp per paratrooper squad)

-Sniper squad-4 man sniper group 2spotters 2 shooters, 1 spotter dies only 1 shooter(yes a copy of Russians but still why not?)cloaking up to 15 meters 
400mp 4 pop


so? criticism welcome, I need a good laugh.
Stosstrupp? Why do people keep creating new ideas with old names?
FG42 is a Fallschirmjäger only Gewehr.

Who needs paratroopers armed only with pistols?

Youre 4 man sniper squad that unlike russians can retreat costs only 400MP?
Just think...

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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #68 on: March 16, 2010, 12:54:42 PM »
Who needs paratroopers armed only with pistols?

I think he was suggesting a officer armed only with a pistol than have the ability to call paratroopers, i assume, more better armed than the officer

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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2010, 02:40:44 PM »
Yes Alguien that is what I meant, and actually FG42 wasnt Falchirmjager only, I'll settle for STG44 if you stop whining like I recommended the Lowe again hah
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2010, 09:47:07 PM »
The flame mine is a cool and good idea. it coul dbe like a tripmine that shoots a big long stream of flame when you tell it too. IMo tho it should be used by the chemicial warfare squad who has thermite and white phosphors nades too tho, and it should cost ammo to deploy each time

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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2010, 10:06:59 PM »
I was bored and made a thread with this updated list, not bored enough to make up buildings though haha
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #72 on: March 18, 2010, 10:55:01 AM »
what about Slovakia recon squad 4 - 5 man squad all have vz 24 rifle and can be upgraded to vz 26 light machine gun (two rifles are replaced by LMG) for 50 - 75 munition after that upgrade are troops able to call in artillery barage since Slovakia use howitzers and guns on eastern front such as

10 cm howitzer vz. 30
10.5 cm Gun model 35
15 cm Heavy howitzer model 25
Skoda K-series 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 37(t)

so what do you think?

I think you're a zealously patriotic Slovakian who's itching to see his country represented in a game. If you can find someone who isn't from Slovakia that likes the idea, well more power to you.

Man, everyone always wants their country in a game. I guess I'm not in a position to talk, since America is almost always in WWII games by default. But man, every Romanian is like OMG we should have romanians in this mod and every Italian is going on about having italians ingame, etc etc.
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #73 on: March 18, 2010, 11:30:29 AM »
what about Slovakia recon squad 4 - 5 man squad all have vz 24 rifle and can be upgraded to vz 26 light machine gun (two rifles are replaced by LMG) for 50 - 75 munition after that upgrade are troops able to call in artillery barage since Slovakia use howitzers and guns on eastern front such as

10 cm howitzer vz. 30
10.5 cm Gun model 35
15 cm Heavy howitzer model 25
Skoda K-series 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 37(t)

so what do you think?
I think you're a zealously patriotic Slovakian who's itching to see his country represented in a game. If you can find someone who isn't from Slovakia that likes the idea, well more power to you.

Man, everyone always wants their country in a game. I guess I'm not in a position to talk, since America is almost always in WWII games by default. But man, every Romanian is like OMG we should have romanians in this mod and every Italian is going on about having italians ingame, etc etc.
Im from Poland and I want a cheap tier 1 non German infantry (no elite units to non german axis). It would probably be the best to not name the specific country that this infantry is from but soldiers need uniforms.
Becouse Romanian army was the second biggest axis army on the eastern front I want Romanian uniforms.

A cheap doctrinal (400MP 3CP) non german tank would be nice.

But on the other hand PzII Luchs (maybe glider dropped) would be great too.
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Re: Unit suggestion thread:
« Reply #74 on: March 18, 2010, 02:34:21 PM »
what about Slovakia recon squad 4 - 5 man squad all have vz 24 rifle and can be upgraded to vz 26 light machine gun (two rifles are replaced by LMG) for 50 - 75 munition after that upgrade are troops able to call in artillery barage since Slovakia use howitzers and guns on eastern front such as

10 cm howitzer vz. 30
10.5 cm Gun model 35
15 cm Heavy howitzer model 25
Skoda K-series 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze 37(t)

so what do you think?

I think you're a zealously patriotic Slovakian who's itching to see his country represented in a game. If you can find someone who isn't from Slovakia that likes the idea, well more power to you.

Man, everyone always wants their country in a game. I guess I'm not in a position to talk, since America is almost always in WWII games by default. But man, every Romanian is like OMG we should have romanians in this mod and every Italian is going on about having italians ingame, etc etc.


Yes i want to see Slovak troops in the game its something bad on it? as i said a few time i want to see all non german countries which fight on eastern front...