Unit suggestion thread:

[cephalos]

somebody suggested it already. like 20 pages earlier XD
I guess we need a list of suggestions, because many suggestion are beginning to repeat.

[Blackbishop]

somebody suggested it already. like 20 pages earlier XD
I guess we need a list of suggestions, because many suggestion are beginning to repeat.

If by this Friday the list isn't on the first post, wait two days, then at the dawn, look at the first post of the thread.

[jaime]

why not?: EXPLOSIVE CAT

[Seeme]

Explosive mines are 10x better then cats.

[IJoe]

Yey! Vultures and spider-mines!

[tigerclawstyle]

http://www.amazon.ca/Black-Edelweiss-Conscience-Soldier-Waffen-Ss/dp/0966638980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297823536&sr=1-1

I just browsed over the last few pages of this thread. The discussion regarding the Waffen SS interested me. Before I read this book, it was my understanding that anything or anyone related to the SS, were war criminals. But their is a big distinction between the SS and the Waffen SS. Not to say that Waffen SS units didn't commit war crimes, they did. However most, were elite front-line units from many nationalities(later in the war).

This book made me reconsider all that. It's considered to be one of the best memoirs of WW2, actually written by a soldier who fought hard on the northern flank of the eastern front and not an officer. The man who wrote it started writing it while in a POW camp shortly after the war in Europe ended, so everything was still in fresh in his mind.

[IJoe]

It would be silly to say, that every single Waffen SS trooper was cremating jews in concentration camps, or burning down villages along with the population locked in barns. But for me, it is enough, that some (and a lot, actually) of them did, to not want "waffen SS" sign in the game, as much, as people don't want to see NKVD (without even knowing much about what it is) in it. So let's settle on that.
Anyways, you're not being on topic with your post here.

[tigerclawstyle]

Well, it's been along time since I've witnessed a massive discussion regarding WW2 and felt obligated to bring it up. If you check out the book (and I highly suggest you do), you'd find out that the soldier was apart of the 6th SS Mountain Division Nord.

An elite mountain/cold weather warfare unit which fought 300 miles above the Arctic circle with Finnish, Swedish (volunteers), and Norwegian soldiers. They committed no atrocities.

Yes, men do terrible things in war. But whole divisions and regiments shouldn't be considered criminals based on the crimes of afew.

Fortunately because of the sacrifices of many, we today haven't experienced the indoctrination of nations based on racist ideals or global domination. We can preach all we want, but we cannot possible fathom how we would react if our home was completely obliterated and occupied. When law and order are removed, and chaos ensues, a person's natural instinct is to survive. 

Now I'm not trying to justify adding a Waffen SS or Partisan units who committed war crimes to the game. I'm not even suggesting we add Waffen SS units to future patches. If possible ignore the SS, and focus on the Nord Mountain division. Regardless I am happy with what we have already and look forward to whatever the development team comes out with.

Like I said in my previous post, the book changed my perspective on the Waffen SS.

[IJoe]

There already are stormtroopers, and most likely, will be some more of the sort. But AFAIK nobody is going to call them SS\Waffen SS or any of that kind.
You, personally, can think of them as of whatever (or whoever) you wish, but why do I have to be forced to see hated (by me, and I have every right to feel so) signs, just to please your feelings?
You have problems with soviet partizans? Do you even know the meaning of the word? What about french partisans (le resistance)? Or maybe polish one? Anyway - these people were forced to stand for their homeland in the face of foreign invasion, that threatened to obliterate them, or at least enslave. That explains a lot of their attitude.
Just leave it a game, please. Enough of those ideas. This way we'll come down to using POW to disarm mines etc. just because it was so, or include women and children, at least as corpses, as was suggested (not by you) some time ago.
This is a game, let's try to leave it as such, please.

[tigerclawstyle]

no problem. check your private messages.

[jaime]

magnetic mines.

[Seeme]

Dose PE already have them?

[neosdark]

Na teller mines just require a heavy force to press on it (more then an infantry man thats for sure). Magnetic mines is quite an interesting idea but im not really sure why to include them, because they would work just like regular mines, its not like they magneticly fly towards tanks, maybe they can do more damage, but then they would have to cost more which would kinda make them useless as defensive weapons.

[Seeme]

What happens if someone is fat?

[BurroDiablo]

Actually, the lower trigger weight of Teller Mines was 100kg... so just over 15st. I'm sure a well equipped soldier could cross that line no problem.