Why did Germany lose on the Eastern Front

[loatty]

may i remind everyone that this is a discussion about why Germany lost on the eastern front? And the 'they lost because they were fu...ng idiots' story might be partly right, it isn't going to explain everything, so please try to talk about something a little more serious.

Now, can we all please get back to the topic?

[BurroDiablo]

Stay on topic guys. You want to argue politics, go somewhere else.

[Tico_1990]

Yep, I'm sorry, the argument was finished as far as I know anyway by now.

[Seeme]

Huh? We weren't off topic?

[Analpirat]

Tico and I we having a rather educated conversation on socialism that was finished but the powers that be would rather have us reiterate the last 10 pages of "coz hitl0r was teh b00n,lulz" for the sake of being on-topic.
Back to the topic: I allege that Germany lost the War on the Eastern Front because they did not kill enough mans and their sandbags couldn't stop the russians going other ways.

[BurroDiablo]

To be honest, I couldn't give a shit even if this topic sank into a discussion about rice crispy treats, but Political discussion is against forum rules. It leads to flame wars, spouting opinionated biased bullshit and people getting their feelings shat on. We'd rather not moderate such discussion, this is not a debate forum.

[pariah]

You could say the same about religion...

But anyway, getting back on topic:

Aren't Rice Crispies great?

[IJoe]

To be honest, I couldn't give a shit even if this topic sank into a discussion about rice crispy treats, but Political discussion is against forum rules. It leads to flame wars, spouting opinionated biased bullshit and people getting their feelings shat on. We'd rather not moderate such discussion.

True, but...
Isn't this topic definitely doomed to sink into the flame-war by default?
I mean, it's as if someone would make a topic like "Why did SU win the war against the third reich?" - it (the discussion that is to follow) is all about politics, since I doubt there's a lot of people, whose opinions on any such matter have any right to be seriously taken into account, 'cause mostly those are amateur bullshit, really.

[pariah]

I don't think discussing W.W.II politics is much of a problem, since it could very well be part of this discussion. But our own political/religious opinions could easily lead to off-topic arguments...

[loatty]

I agree with Pariah, politics are part of this discussion, but we should leave our own opinions out, guys.

[Blackbishop]

Could we behave in a civil way??

[GodlikeDennis]

Tico and I we having a rather educated conversation on socialism that was finished but the powers that be would rather have us reiterate the last 10 pages of "coz hitl0r was teh b00n,lulz" for the sake of being on-topic.
Back to the topic: I allege that Germany lost the War on the Eastern Front because they did not kill enough mans and their sandbags couldn't stop the russians going other ways.

But their sandbags made their mans go green at least.

[BurroDiablo]

Ok guys, topic locked. I've said time and time again, go talk politics somewhere else.

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