Axis Non-German Troops

[Lone Commissar]

We don't need nationalistic fighting on here thanks. You're both entitled to your point of view, if someone wants to push their idea all the time then that is fine, but name calling is not welcome on either side. Just keep it friendly.

[Daiwiz]

Adding the troops as a reward is probably best. Perhaps a doctrine is mostly call in units from the other countries, or by selecting say ``Blue Division for 3 CPs`` you now get to produce a limited number of Spanish squads. Could work quite well, I think.

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

I close this thread for 24h!
Hope that is enought time for the guys to calm down.
So tomorrow i will reopen here - promised!

Lord Rommel

Why i close?
Well; think this will escalate like the last time with the Romanians and i hope that this little break will calm down our "patriots"  

-> OPEN!

[shalar]

Uau when I opend this thread I never supposed that this idea could generate a lot of discussion as the seen in the posts and more than a thousand views. I suppose that the idea is almost interesting.

Then I pourpose to end with the nationality discussion use a skill named "International Fascist Volunteers" that calls in a special elite infantery unit. No nationality in there and as really was with all nationalities wearing a german like uniform. This International Fascist Volunteers unit could have a lot of special skills as camo + anitank high skill and could be unsupressable, and upgradeable with a marksman. They can be a 6 - 7 man. Don't forget that those men are not soldiers, they are fascist fanatics and are not going to die in the battle as soldiers. They WANT to die in the battle as heroes for honor and their fascist concept of the world.

Then they can be a very expensive unit and because of that a very high elite unit. Almost like the Ritterkreutz troops vs infantery and including 2 panzershrecks and free grenades.

Excuse my bad english today. What you think about? 

[250.Inf. Div.]

shalar,interesting idea +1

[PSIHOPAT]

No!!!
This idea is very bad.

This is just  another german unit with german clothes and weapons,but having another name =>BIG DEAL!!!.

Every allied country for germany had their UNIQUE equipment.This things bring color and variety.Not just names.

[shalar]

Psihopat I share with you the enthusiasm about giving a whole faction to each nationality and I will be glad if we can do it possible but consider that those brave men who work FOR FREE like 28 hours each day in front of a PC programming a FREE expansion pack for our CoH. They can't do like 8 or 10 units to appear randomly in the map that's a lot of work for a small result at the end. And as obviouse is not possible to programm a full new faction for each country.

Then considering that they BRING US THE OPPORTUNITY to contribute with our ideas, make them a gift and be a bit more tolerant with new and dinamic ideas that can increase the game experience in a scale that is at the same time affordable to programm and work with by the developers. Developers that I must say again work for you, for me, and for all us who love CoH FOR FREE !!!!

So please make your contribution thinking about the work amount under your proposal too.

Thanks for reading again and Psihopat I will enjoy one day with a CoH with Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, Spanish and so on, but let them time and go step by step.

[250.Inf. Div.]

Shalar, I am with you and I think a great idea,I would like to see the blue division in the mod,but still  was a German unit more, with the same clothes and weapons So with this I am satisfied .

gretings fron spain.

[ford_prefect]

No!!!
This idea is very bad.

This is just  another german unit with german clothes and weapons,but having another name =>BIG DEAL!!!.

Every allied country for germany had their UNIQUE equipment.This things bring color and variety.Not just names.

http://worldwartwozone.com/photopost/data/500/medium/IMG_000120.jpg
http://www.ecomodelismo.com/ECO_imgArt/NIMI/NIMI-N017.jpg
http://www.waffen-ss.no/quist.jpg
three different soldiers in the blue division of Spain (which you have shown a liking to in the mod) all wearing basically the same uniform as the rest of the German soldiers. So you are saying that we shouldn't add the blue division then? Rather contradicting to your self don't you think?

[250.Inf. Div.]

the Spanish used the German field uniform and the third picture is of the ss no spanish blue divison,sure you think that uniforms are black and white

I personally do not care that add to the Spanish in the mod,I prefer to add italians, that will be easier to defeat the Germans .

[ford_prefect]

ah my bad
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/related/axis_allies/buledivision_files/munoz_grandes.jpg
this IS in fact men in the Blue Division though. Look rather much like German soldiers

[Daiwiz]

What is it with Ford and trying to make certain no Spaniards get into this mod? He's everywhere!!!!

Anyways, I think the easiest thing to do would be Shalar's idea. The thing that would make the most happy on the other hand is units with their country's name, weapons, etc. Personally, I'd like to see them with slightly different skins (To represent the fact that people will often try to differ themselves from others. Dunno how realistic or not) and a mix of rifles. Some Mausers and some rifles from their mother country.

By the "Want to die on the battlefield..." bit you mean that they don't get wounded? I think that would be a nice idea, espeacially since that was how it was with the SS and other fanatical-to-the-death type divisions. An example of the bravery/stupidity of them when faced with danger is a Canadian sergeant throwing 3 knives at a captured SS who doesn't flinch. Fanatical troops refusing water when they are wounded, spitting in medic's faces, etc etc. More willing to die than get help from the enemy.

Anyways, so as not cause a rift of some sorts, this would be a good idea. Perhaps in the future when the devs don't have as much on their plate they could include the units from specific countries, but for now this would be good.

[Pauly3]

i think spitting in medics faces is a bloody myth
I have never been wounded on a battlefield(lucklily i have never been on one yet...) but I have suffered injuries during various sport events (broke my leg at football and my hand (twice) and I have cut myself a few times (by accident, i aint no Emo ) and the first thing you think of when you see your own blood spilled is to get it patched up and to get some painkillers. I think people will always accept help if they are seriously injured.
But gameplay wise i would think that the costly Ostheer Elite Units make a medi-station very important. It also adds realism because Germans needed every man they could patch up. Many german soldiers have been wounded 2-3 times during the war...

[ford_prefect]

"What is it with Ford and trying to make certain no Spaniards get into this mod? He's everywhere!!!!"
dude whats wrong with giving facts Daiwiz?

[Gerrit 'Lord Rommel' G.]

Hey guys Be friendly and "neutral".
Watch your language - you dont have to attack each other.

With the spanish: Well. This is one of the
"axis" nations. My problem by all of this
nations it that they dont represent the hole
front during the hole time. When the Ostheer
will use such axis units then i think just as call-in
units and then they need special abilities!
Perhaps you think about that.

For example i like the idea out of the other thread
that there are some soldiers for "save resources"
because most of the axis allies were used as
partisan hunters behind the frontline and so in CoH
the mainpoint behind the frontline are resource points ^^