Axis Non-German Troops

[ford_prefect]

Spain should not be considered they were a neutral country

That sent a division to fight for Germany in Russia. Neutrality is a bit of a stretched term in this case.

Division......tell me how many Armies Romania and Italy had?

[GamblerSK]

i think the numbers aren't so important, something else is if they send 1000 troops but if at least division that's ok i think
it was told many times that this game isn't historically accurate at 100% and many things are made just for better gameplay like pershing or ostwind the numbers aren't so important...

[PSIHOPAT]

@ford_perfect
No other country can match contribution of romanian forces in eastern front as allied of germany.

Romania in WW2 (wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romania_during_World_War_II

The war on the Eastern Front
"On June 22, 1941, Germany launched Operation Barbarossa, attacking the Soviet Union on a wide front. Romania joined in the offensive, with Romanian troops crossing the River Prut. After recovering Bessarabia and Bukovina (Operation München), Romanian units fought side by side with the Germans onward to Odessa, Sevastopol, and Stalingrad. The Romanian contribution of troops was enormous. The total number of troops involved in the Romanian Third Army and the Romanian Fourth Army was second only to Nazi Germany itself. The Romanian Army had a total of 686,258 men under arms in the summer of 1941 and a total of 1,224,691 men in the summer of 1944"

[ford_prefect]

thank you PSIHOPAT that's nice of you. So it would make sense to add Romania then yes? Italy I could see as well. Spain...I could see one unit with a certain number of troops allowed

[Alguien]

Spain...I could see one unit with a certain number of troops allowed

I was uner the impresion that the main idea of the spaniard defenders was a doctrine special squad that you can have more than one in the battlefield unless killed, so nothing really "war winning" but still helpfull

[ford_prefect]

yea basically like you can get 3 squads if they die, they die can't get em back

[Pauly3]

@Psihopat
Thx for the new info.
I didnt know there were romanian troops on the eastern front...
Italians, sure thing, we all know the spanish blue division, but ROMANIANS???
I would have never guessed that.
But being serious, I dont think we should discuss about if foreigners will be in the Ostheer(cause I am damn sure they will be), we should discuss about their abilities..

[GamblerSK]

and did you know that the Slovakia troops was there too?

[Saavedra]

But, have you seen any namly mentioned division in the game yet?
Also, others wanted specific foreign SS units, but the name SS will never be mentioned in the relic CoH or the mod itself, as Warty said once.

Have you actually PLAYED THE GAME YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?

Just off the top of my head: 101st Division, 12th SS Division "Hitlerjugend", 1st British Airborne Division, 1st Polish Parachute Battalion, Kampfgruppe Lehr. All of them named in the game, some of them (if not all) even have the unit patches on their shoulders, and all of them are real (with the exception of the 3rd Canadian Battalion you play as in the British campaign, Boudica, which I believe might be fictional).

And I haven´t even bothered going through the whole game to rewatch the briefings and see what units are mentioned there (I must be missing at least two more names from every faction).



As for the Blue Division troops suggested for the mod, the idea was having them as special call-ins Storm Trooper style. No "limited number" bullshit that is saved for actually super-special units like super heavy tanks, not for "units I don´t want to see in the game because I´m a wanker and my word has to go no matter what".

@ford_perfect
No other country can match contribution of romanian forces in eastern front as allied of germany.

PSIHOPAT, we already know Romanian troops contributed a lot to the German effort and we all acknowledge that if any foreign troops were to be represented in the mod, it should be Romanians.

Can you PLEASE shut your mouth already and quit spamming? We KNOW the Romanians fought together with the Axis, we BELIEVE they should be represented in the mod first and foremost. Can you now SHUT UP ALREADY ABOUT THAT SHIT? Honestly, it´s a f*cking wonder you haven´t been banned yet for being so goddamn obnoxious. I swear to God if you don´t quit spamming your nationalistic bullshit, I´m going to start a petition to get you banned on the grounds of you being a rabidly nationalistic troll that is making every single discussion about foreign troops into a pile of crap. I can understand being patriotic, but you are just dragging your country through the mud, making us HATE YOU AND HATE IT BY EXTENSION.

I won´t be surprised if the devs decide to include every country EXCEPT Romanians just to spite you.

WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE, TOO!
Team will talk about this here!
Lord Rommel

[PSIHOPAT]

@Saavedra

I stopped arguing about Romania some time ago.
Also...
Some people did not know about Romania in eastern front,and I just INFORMED few people about that.

***DELETE BY ADMIN***

STOP!
- Okay! That is enough! For both!
The team will see what we will make with you!
LORD ROMMEL

[ford_prefect]

this is why I don't really like you....

[Pauly3]

you earned your name  psichopath???
your Pic is pretty fitting too. 
lets just settle down
and get back on topic.
 

[Saavedra]

JUST ONE IDIOT LIKE YOU CAN IGNORE HISTORY BECAUSE DON'T LIKE ONE PERSON !!!

I don´t ignore history. I actually support including the Romanians (because I have read Antony Beevor´s "Stalingrad" and know that Romanians played a pivotal role in the Eastern Front).

The problem here is that EVERYONE IS TIRED OF YOU TALKING ABOUT ROMANIANS, BECAUSE ALL YOU DO IS SPAM WALLS OF TEXT MIXED WITH BLIND NATIONALISM.

You are so blinded that you didn´t even notice ford prefect´s post was a RHETHORIC QUESTION. Which means that he already knew the answer to his own question, what he intended to mean with what he wrote was that Spaniards should not be included in the mod because they only sent one division, while Romanians and Italians sent many more troops.

Which is, of course, a bullshit reason when you have in mind that CoH includes Sherman Crocodiles (only four of them ever existed, if I remember correctly), you can field as many King Tigers as you want, and what is even better... you can shoot V1s at enemy troops, something Germany never did.

this is why I don't really like you....

I thought you didn´t like me because I had an anime-inspired avatar which in your mind meant that I was a teenager, or something like that. That, and your bias against Spaniards that doesn´t make much sense to me.




But yeah, whatever, let´s get back on topic. See how long we can go without ford prefect again positioning himself against including the Blue Division, and/or PSIHOPAT spouting more of his nationalism.

[GamblerSK]

i saw a great idea somewhere here on forum, you can call non  German troops from one ability and it randomly choose from all included units so its the best idea and all nations which fight on eastern front at axis side could be there...
this is great solution of the problem of non German troops...
so Italian, Romanian, Hungary, Slovakia, Spain, Finish soldiers could be called but no body knows which one comes:P

[PSIHOPAT]

@Saavedra
Hey chicken brain.

I barely understand and write english and many things are missed in translation like "rhetoric speaking"(or sarcasm) about you talk about. 

So....i judge words just how they are written.

And...YES!!!...I LOVE MY COUNTRY!!!...but that is my "problem"....also if you sell your country for a good tasty sh*t is your problem and i care less.

Consider this subject ended about that and stop attacking me.

On topic => i have nothing against any country to be included in this mod,but i consider to be high priority for countries who actually played a major role in EF.