Did anyone actually win world war 2?

[UeArtemis]

Oh, do you really think that the "war machine" can work forever? WW2 was time of reborn of the Red/Soviet Army. The war itself configure this machine of war. Practice is the best way to become better. In this war there was no chance to surrender without a capitulation. Everything was at stake. But time changes everything, destroys everything. Destruction of Soviet power was slowly.
Reasons of losing in Afghanistan and Vietnam are same. Wars were against guerrillas, not regular armies, on foreign territories, not supported by own people, enemies were receiving help from powerful allies, etc.

The Soviet army is not an American imperialistic army the USSR was a peaceful country before Afghanistan and didn't wage wars But the Caribbean Crisis was won by the USSR (   
Missiles in Turkey disappeared ), Russian aircraft with Russian pilots fought against Americans in the skies of many wars, for example, in Korea.

My point of view: the USSR didn't lose the war, but the United States received the greatest benefit from this war.
Do you ask who win? the USA.

[Zerstörer]

'The Soviet army is not an American imperialistic army the USSR was a peaceful country before Afghanistan and didn't wage wars '

Cough cough!!!
Remind me again who invaded Finland pre WW2 and won just about enough ground to bury their dead?
Remind me again the Russian-Japanese conflict before and after WW2?
The Crimean war?
No...there is no such thing as 'peaceful country'. War is the continuation of state policy..by other means. It was just that by the end of WW2 soviet unit had created a military might it didn't have before and hence had the ability to increase it's influence via military might...same as the US. US were just clever enough to pose as the 'defenders of the 'free' world' while the soviets claimed to be the protectors of the 'weak'

As for Afganistan...the US/British trained them...financed them and used them to damage the Soviet union. It was in a big mess before the soviets invaded.
US/Britain are now paying the price for arrogantly thinking they could succeed where the soviets failed.The role/life of the Mujahedeen never changed...only their opponents nationality changed.

Back to the original question, it's all about gain vs cost to see who won...

[UeArtemis]

the USSR was a peaceful country before Afghanistan, but after the WW2. I think it is clear from context.
And Finland WAS a part of Russian Empire.

So all Soviet expansions can be seen as an restoration of territory.

the Russian-Japanese conflicts was a part of the WW2. And Japan was an aggressor, as you remember.
The Crimean war was on teritory of Russian Empire but we fought against Brits... so who is an aggressor here? And it wasn't the USSR.
and etc.

[HostileAmerican]

ok im not sure how to get you all to understand this question but in 007 golden eye i remember James Bonds partner (from the beginning) saying something about how England betrayed (or something) others during the U.K vs Russia thing,

Now i know this was a movie and one that i don't have or else i would bee looking it up my self but can anyone fill me in to what they where talking about and weather it was true.

[WelshManDan]

1 word, youtube

[siegfried]

of course the allies won. its all about completing your mission. Japan surrendered so of course they lost

and hitler killed himself because defeat was imminent.


doesn't matter what happened after the was over, allies won.

vengeful,what you say in your first post is like two teams at a football match, someone won, but when the winning team got back to their district they found their money had all been spent on buying more equipment for the team. doesn't mean they lost. they won.

[kitekatus]

the USSR was a peaceful country before Afghanistan, but after the WW2. I think it is clear from context.
And Finland WAS a part of Russian Empire.

So all Soviet expansions can be seen as an restoration of territory.

the Russian-Japanese conflicts was a part of the WW2. And Japan was an aggressor, as you remember.
The Crimean war was on teritory of Russian Empire but we fought against Brits... so who is an aggressor here? And it wasn't the USSR.
and etc.

well i think when large nations are fighting each other both of them are agressors, aggressors against their own people no matter they are USSR,germany,brits or americans.talking about WW2 no doubt the allies won ,but they especialy USSR payed ultimate price for it- more than 20 milions dead ,advanced western part of USSR destroyed....and bout finns and other small nations who are bordering them.i cant understand what do russians need from them, and long time before the russian empire, there was living finnish tribes and thats why i think russians or other large nations have no rights to finnish, baltic and other small nation lands.what i want to say is that every nation should live where they are living for thousands of years free and independent.

[vengefulnoob]

Now here's a question: why did tge Germans invade Norway? It had little in the way of resources and had a small population spread out over a huge area, thus easily allowing resistance and infiltration. Where is the motive?

[luz777]

Im no expert but I'd imagine a main reason would be the coastline and naval bases. Used to launch u-boats into the north atlantic and whatnot.

Anyone else?

Cheers

[NuclearTerrorist]

The real winners were all the countries that did not fight in world war two because they didn't lose any lives, or temporarily wreck their economy. If you look at it from that point of course.

In my opinion the country that made the allies win was My Motherland The CCCP (AKA USSR).

Think about it.

You are in an automatch 2v2. and have an ally named USA playing as the USA. The mod already came out, and you are the Soviets. USA kinda fought the enemy "Japan". but was afk for half the time. You on the other hand kept battling the level 20 (Germany) and kept losing ground lots, of manpower, and lives. Your ally who's airbourne by the way drops in some paratroopers to help you, and sends a sherman or two. After many, many battles you manage to raise the satchel charge (the flag) over the enemy HQ. Your ally finally wakes up and uses his 500 accumulated ammo to bombing run "Japan's" HQ after which action "Japan" Drops.

So there you go. that's from CoH's perspective.

-Nuke

[Cartoon Boy]

Now here's a question: why did tge Germans invade Norway? It had little in the way of resources and had a small population spread out over a huge area, thus easily allowing resistance and infiltration. Where is the motive?

Germans invaded normay because they had airbases and naval bases that could be used againest Britain. Norway was the Northern half of a Giant pincer movement. The drive through France have him the southern half. Once both had fallen, the RAF would be destroyed and Mainland UK would be cut off from vital conveys from all across the world by Submarines.

On who won world war 2? Hmmmm lets see here, Germany didn't won because they lost. USSR didn't win because they're Communists. Japan didn't win they got a nuke dropped on them. China didn't win they had a civil war. US didn't win they got Nixon and Bob Dylan. UK didn't win they came a close second. The French didn't win... well that one is pretty . Finland didn't win. Italy and Romania changed sides so they got a half a point. So who is left? Australia that's who! We won the war damnit.

[gustavowizard]

Of the Major Powers that fought only USA and RUSSIA got off better than on begin; after the WW2 they emerged as the 2 World Dominant Super Powers, then started the Cold War and Nuclear Run...

PS - That is a cold analisis, YES i do care the people that died, but humans born again quicklly, to rebuild a hole country infrastructure; England, France, Japan and Germany was tottally devasteded, all major cities destroyed; that didnt happened to US and not with all Russia.

[Paciat]

USA won.

[gustavowizard]

USA won.

yeah lol correct, and after what i said USA won, and without shoot 1 bullet , but make no mistake, the Opus Dei also helped to bring down the Soviet Union  (Paranoic face)

[thebomb]

Yeah the USA came out on top at the end of WWII. With its major imperialist competitor, Great Britain, lying in ruins and largely in debt they were free to do whatever they wanted for the next 50 years.