Did anyone actually win world war 2?

[vengefulnoob]

Like world war 2 in the red alert series?

Damn that's a good plotline....

[Brewsky]

Red Alert had WWII in it? Never knew that...

[vengefulnoob]

Since it's world war 3 but ww2 never happenned in that universe, it's ww2

[Brewsky]

Would Red Alert be a good game to look in to?

[vengefulnoob]

Ra3 is awsum

Buy it buy it buy it buy it buy it

Coop multiplayer rts......

[Brewsky]

I'll just get it off of Torrentz It's free and all.

[WartyX]

The Allies won the war. We achieved our war objectives (removing the threat of Nazi Germany). I could talk consequences all day and probably even find a reason to why Germany won the war if I wanted to, but the facts are plain and simple.

[Lukin]

USSR and Germany are both lost! Of course we finished our way in berlin, but we planned since 1924 to capture a whole World! Hitler just scared about it and strikes in 1941....... We were prepared to advance at the Europe and nobody knows that Hitler was so stupid to strike by his unnumbered forces! But he did.... He lost war at 1941, as we do! WW2 is a Stalins project, to capture a whole Europe! At his design the WW3 must be started to Capture USA and rest of free world.That's why i think that USSR lost WW2.

[Zerstörer]

There were only two 'true winners' in WW2 and that was the US...(and the chineese). They managed to surpass(in most ways) and grab hold of Europe without having suffered any domestic disasters(no bombings on infa structure). Weapons trade boomed  to unimaginable levels boasting the economy to unbelievable levels. They 'got' most of the world's leading scientiststo work for them. World wide influence with the most powerful nations at the time grew to an unbelievable level.

USSR was always trailing behind overstretching...allying with what can be considered the weakest of WW2 survivors technologically and financially.A loosing race...

Middle east became the next battlefield which clearly showed that US backed up 'states' would always win...

Chineese on the other hand have only ever increased their power since WW2 and being more 'adaptable' than the USSR have mostly replaced them as a counter balance to the US

To be fair if Hitler wasn't(thank fook) stupid enough to finish the war in Africa before assaulting the USSR...we'd have all been speaking german now

[luz777]

I suppose "winning" is a bit of a vague term.
In military terms the allies won, as they defeated the German Army and captured or killed most of the leaders of the Nazi regime.
The cost of winning is something different though, and in that case the USSR was the one who really "lost".
24 million people really is a mind boggling number of casualties 

[WartyX]

Aye, thats like half the United Kingdom perishing over 5 years.

[UeArtemis]

The USSR didn't lose. This war was hardening of steel. Before the Second World War, the Soviet Union lost wars, for example, against Poland, even the Winter War wasn't a full victory. After the Second World the USSR was respected. What does not kill us, makes us stronger.
Stalin never wanted to rule the world. He got a large country with big and numerous internal problems. Only Lenin believed in the World Revolution. The Stalin's thesis was: you can build communism in one country.
And the USSR was smaller than Russian Empire. So all Soviet expansions can be seen as an restoration of territory.

[WartyX]

This war was hardening of steel. Before the Second World War, the Soviet Union lost wars, for example, against Poland, even the Winter War wasn't a full victory. After the Second World the USSR was respected. What does not kill us, makes us stronger.

The only real damage caused by the Soviets since WW2 was the way they ripped apart Afghanistan, before spitting it back out and retreating. Repecussions are still felt not only by the Allied soldiers currently stationed there, but the innocent children who become maimed while playing football because they trod on a mine.

[UeArtemis]

If the enemy put the mines - is war lost? Or are you pacifist?
Mines was used by all.
Afghanistan... USA has such war too... Vietnam. And so? Several decades after the war - it is long time. After Khrushchev the USSR isn't so might (I think so). I love times of Khrushchev and Stalin. It is interesting time in history.

[WartyX]

I am not a pacifist. The USSR-Afghan war was lost for other reasons. My point is, if WW2 was a 'hardening of steel' and before then, 'the Soviet Union lost wars', you are implying that the USSR had become some amazing battle machine which won war after war after war. Please enlighten me of any major conflict the Soviets actually won following the Second World War.