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vengefulnoob
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Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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September 07, 2008, 11:32:41 PM »
IMO, noone won: each country lost so much of its resources and manpower that it took years to build up again: Even America was not ready for another major conflict until 1950, and though there was an economic boom during the war, after the war the economic advantage gained by having a mass of cheaper labour was lost as the soldiers came home to replace those jobs. The soviet union didnt win either: 90% of all russian men born form 1921 to 23 were killed and the major grain supply of ukraine had been plundered by the germans, leaving the country in famine; nor did the UK: it lost its major asset- the empire fell under nationaist movements in india etc. I wont even bother with the axis countries...
what do you think? did anyone win world war 2?
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Dominic 'Dragon' Cassidy
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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September 07, 2008, 11:52:38 PM »
You already answered the question yourself.
Key word in the title "World War", no one ever "wins" a world war.
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vengefulnoob
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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September 08, 2008, 01:04:25 AM »
nvm
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William
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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September 08, 2008, 03:09:01 AM »
well if you think about it, we defeated Hitler's forces, there was a winner and a loser. Same with the Japanese, it just came at an extremely great cost.
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TheAllMihtyOne
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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September 08, 2008, 02:57:37 PM »
well you can see it different ways i'd say the allies won and the axis lost or only that the axis lost if we dont want a winner. but if we se it like tasks: the germans faild their task to rule the world and kill all jews and the allais sucsesed in their task to stop hitler from doing his task. but as said no country won but there will allways be loosers
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BurroDiablo
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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September 19, 2008, 11:11:29 AM »
The Allies definitely won, but because there was no defined Country1 Vs Country2 conflict, no one country could be named the sole victor of the War... same applied to World War 1 too. To have a sole victor of a World War would mean all other combatants we're mercilessly crushed by a superior force... which
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have happened in WW2 if the Ruskies decided that Berlin wasn't good enough for them (if it wasn't for the advent of Nuclear Weapons).
Its kinda like football; no sole person wins a game, the Team does... but the best player usually gets Man of the Match... Man of the Match for WW2 was definitely Russia.
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matrin
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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October 24, 2008, 12:26:09 AM »
switzerland won world war 2 with all the nazi gold it got
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Lone Commissar
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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November 11, 2008, 08:31:52 AM »
Well, the world power balance changed, the empries of Britian and France played second fiddle to the USA and USSR. So you could say they won in that respect. The US also went on to profit from the debt that Britian and other Allies accumulated. I would say that for the US and USSR the Second World War was a victory, even if it was a slightly phyricc one.
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suederat
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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December 10, 2008, 03:27:37 AM »
The Russians bled for the victory and nearly lost in the process, circa 20 million dead is unimaginable as a number of casualties, now consider it was the level that 'one' country suffered. It is mind boggling that it was the approximate death toll on the Russian population. The British and French lost more military in ww1 than in ww2. The Americans were the real winners, because they bankrolled the rest of the winners who are still paying it off. The British and Russians may not have survived without this form of support, so I am certain it was incredibly welcome and a prayer answered. So, the Russians fa
Consider this, the marshall plan was great in concept, I heard it said that USA bank-rolled the French to almost the same amount the French spent on losing the war in indo-china - convenient eh! Of course, this was a great lesson to the Americans, right? wrong!
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Halftrack
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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December 15, 2008, 11:18:41 AM »
There are definetively some winners in World War II..
The USA and the Soviet Union both "won" something, they expanded their territory and influence
and became Superpowers. Looking at the price they had to pay, the US with some 600.000 casualties
and the Soviets with 20 Millions dead and their homeland tortured. So the USA is our clear winner.
Next to the "loosers" like Germany,Japan, Hungary and Italia there were
two others, who thought who won it: Great Britain and France. Both lost much of their influence,
a few years later they lost their oversea colonies, and they shrunk from global player to "some
european country"
Looking at the question who lost the war, you should say Germany and japan. But did they ?
10 years later both ( at least western germany ) were becoming important economies.
The real loosers of the war were the eastern european countries... first overrun or opressed
by germany, then annexed or made puppets of the Soviet union. They were occuoied for about 40 years
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Brewsky
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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February 02, 2009, 03:18:45 PM »
Losing life period is not victory... It is sad that anybody had to die over a war that should of never happened... It just is more showing of the fact that humans are animals.
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TheAllMihtyOne
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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February 02, 2009, 04:46:37 PM »
esactly how do you mean? i'm pretty good at history and i'm very sure that there have been no animal wars, the ellefants didnt start killing all girrafs and then came the ferrets trying to take whole central europe. the only war act u can blame in animals was when the rats spread the plauge.
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Brewsky
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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February 02, 2009, 07:08:02 PM »
Ugh. You know what I mean. What I'm trying to get at is that we shouldn't HAVE to settle differences by killing each other.
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TheAllMihtyOne
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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February 02, 2009, 08:15:26 PM »
well if there never was a ww2 then non of the awsome computer games would have existed!
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Brewsky
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Re: Did anyone actually win world war 2?
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February 02, 2009, 09:09:55 PM »
Yeah... I guess you do have a point... Everything does happen for one reason or another :/
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