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PSIHOPAT
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #15 on:
February 14, 2010, 08:16:16 PM »
It is supposed to be unique but is too simple.
Very simple.Having a new faction not mean to reject all what another factions have.
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GamblerSK
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #16 on:
February 14, 2010, 08:25:57 PM »
I don't thing so, its not so bad that they don't have abilities, they have cooldown instead of spending munition on grenades for example and no body else is capable of that so they just don't have abilities i think its fair...
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hgghg4
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Posts: 435
Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #17 on:
February 14, 2010, 10:12:26 PM »
PzIV(W), Panther (W&P), Jagdpanther (P), Tiger (W), KT(W) Sherman w/out crab flail (A), Firefly (B) don't have any special abilities.
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BDNeon
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #18 on:
February 15, 2010, 07:22:10 AM »
Quote from: hgghg4 on February 14, 2010, 10:12:26 PM
Sherman w/out crab flail (A),
Smoke.
But yes, you do have a point.
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hgghg4
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #19 on:
February 15, 2010, 06:25:56 PM »
thanks i forgot about that
but a regular sherman no upgrades has no spec ability
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PSIHOPAT
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #20 on:
February 15, 2010, 06:32:23 PM »
Why all military historians and weapon specialists from that documentary consider sherman and panzer IV inferior to T-34 overall looking,in maximum total points ?
Top Ten Tanks- #10: M-4 Sherman
Top Ten Tanks- #6: Mk IV Panzer
Is no way or idea to reflect history in this mod ?
Is really a bad idea to give one ability to T-34 ?
If is... Why ?
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Panzer4life
Axis Commander
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #21 on:
February 15, 2010, 06:34:16 PM »
I will agree with PSIHOPAT on the fact the T-34 needs to be better. I hate having to wait till I get to the T-34/85 upgrade so they can do damage to a Panzer four/ Panther tank, and might be able to survive. But it does not need shock, the crews where badly trained, and the gunners couldn't hit a broad side of a barn. So I would just like to see the T-34/76 get better armoor to at least have a chance against a Panzer 4.
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hgghg4
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #22 on:
February 15, 2010, 06:52:37 PM »
for two P4s you can get 3 T34/76s pop wise...just flank them instead of taking them head on and focus your fire at one at a time... you might loose 1 T34 but at least you'll kill the P4s
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PSIHOPAT
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #23 on:
February 15, 2010, 07:45:04 PM »
@hgghg4
I suggest you to abandon this useless childish "tactical guide" from almost all your posts,and come with some comments on topic or suggestions,with example from the history,technical details,comparisons,new battle system concept...etc...
All what i saw in your comments is "must be supported","hit from the side or rear","take cover","retreat"...and other very simple and obvious things...
For T-34 i suggest to have very low recruit time,better chances to ricochet incoming shells and little more speed.
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Zerstörer
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Mr. Spam
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Listen up knuckleheads!
Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #24 on:
February 15, 2010, 08:04:06 PM »
T34/76 will remain cheaper and inferior overall to the PzIV/ sherman/hetzer etc. Get used to it. T34 is already alot faster than all other medium tanks(speed 6.5) apart from the cromwell when it has flank speed flank speed.
T34/85 remains at least equal but usually superior to all other vetted tanks apart from Panthers and Tigers.
If you want to deal with Panthers and Tigers, either add SUs to the T34 mix and micro well OR get the IS2 out to deal with them
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PSIHOPAT
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Posts: 287
Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #25 on:
February 15, 2010, 08:09:18 PM »
And recruitment time ?
This can reflect history =>fast mass production
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hgghg4
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Posts: 435
Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #26 on:
February 15, 2010, 10:36:27 PM »
it is already faster then all other tanks (exception Stug with Officer Supervision) and btw PSIHOPAT this is a TACTICAL GAME not a REALISTIC game..... so TACTICS and SUPPORT are needed... deal with it...
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PSIHOPAT
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Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #27 on:
February 16, 2010, 02:20:42 AM »
What the....F**K!!!
We play the same game ?
This is strategy game,and reproduce something real(WW2),but tactics are important for bringing victory.
I request you to say no more craps here.
Spare me from your "superior air" of knowledge about tactics and strategy.
You told this things soooooooooo many times...
Strategy is not made with two words,and fixed rules for this things don't worth two cents...
Always is need to create,improve,adapt or combine....
Sometime is need for a good blitz decision,and in other situations is need an entire elaborated plan.
I am enough capable to understand such simple things.
The part where is need time is for knowing
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all details about all units,and to create a strategy enough flexible and with maximum efficiency.
Strategy is a long term plan,and tactics bring result in one battle and can force strategic plan to fall,or to need modifications.
Tactics are just moves as a part of strategy.
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hgghg4
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Posts: 435
Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #28 on:
February 16, 2010, 05:43:49 AM »
I never put up an "air of superiority" you just think I have that
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PSIHOPAT
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Posts: 287
Re: T-34 Deserve his fame
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Reply #29 on:
February 16, 2010, 01:32:05 PM »
I suggest to be made two versions of T-34, available all the time,with upgrade for each of them.
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Upgrade for T-34 will be T34/76B
1942 - Soviet T-34/76B Medium Tank
Armament: 1 - 76.2mm F-34 L/30.5 gun
1 - 7.62mm MG coaxial
1- 7.62mm MG in hull
Engine: V2-34, V-12, diesel, 500 hp
Speed: 34 mph
Range: 280 miles with auxiliary tanks
Crew: 4
Weight: 32 tons
The T-34 went through many continuous design modifications. This model (nomenclature is Western not Soviet) was an improvement with a more powerful 76.2mm gun, heavier armor and a cast turret. Over 5000 produced. About 1/4 of the fuel was carried in external tanks which could be jettisoned giving the tank a remarkable 280-mile range. The broad tracks and double road wheels with coil spring suspension allowed the T-34 to travel where opponents floundered. Two man turret with no cupola for commander and hand traverse mechanism were deficiencies.
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Upgrade for T-34/85 will be T-34/85-II
1947 - Soviet T-34/85-II
Gun: 1- 85 mm ZIS S-53
2 - 7.62 mm MG
Engine: V block 12cyl diesel 500 hp
Speed: 32 mph
Range: 280 miles
Crew 4
Wt: approx. 34.4 tons
The T-34 was the most important tank of WWII. It had the longest career of any AFV in history. This is one of the last variants. Produced in Poland and Czechoslovakia, many for export to the Middle East. Replaced by development of the T-44 post war.
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