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Offline TheConqueror

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A new faction for Eastern Front
« on: February 09, 2010, 06:53:08 PM »
   First of all i want to say that there is 3 different nations on one side (British, USA, Soviet Union) but at the other side only 1 nation and its Germans (Wehrmacht & Panzer Elite). And now people talk about Ostheer and its again Germans. At this point I'm getting concerned about variety on battlefield... I think we must put a different nation in the mod and that would be really nice. This will make this mod (more) awesome.
 
   There are many nations can be think ed about but i think Empire of Japan would be a good choice because first of all i want you to remember that: When Japanese joined to war from that moment its called as a World War. Before than that is was a war on Europe and a bit on North Africa. Secondly, Japanese matches the title of mod. Well it is far east but it is east... And Japanese fought both with USA and Soviet Union at that era. Japanese had a fierce fanatic infantry (Banzai charges, suicide attacks etc.) which are also were experts of ambush tactics (remember battles on tropical pacific islands) and they had a suprising fierce air force (remember Pearl Harbor - Kamikaze Doctrine etc.) which rains bullets or bombs on their targets before they crash on it (this can be a 1 of 3 doctrines). Finally we must not forget Japanese navy power. In CoH there is no navy battles but navy forces can feature as an off-map artillery or manpower in exchange of fuel and (this one is very unique) reinforcing infantry squads on anywhere on owned territories. These can be abilities of Navy Support Doctrine .     
   Japanese had good tanks (mostly medium and light tanks) but they are not as strong as Panther or IS-2 or M26 so they lack of heavy armored vehicles. This weakness can be reduced by Heavy Armor Doctrine. With this doctrine Japanese can call (for once) powerful Super-Heavy Tank "O-I" which can match with a Tiger Tank.
   
   *As same as in WW2 Japanese have a very mobile force on battlefield (Like British in CoH but not with Trucks).
   *Their infantry is "kill many in short time but die quickly" type.Setting booby traps, ambushes, digging trenches for defensive operations...
   *They had a strong artillery like Rocket Mortars, Howitzers, Anti-Tank Guns etc.
  *Japanese snipers are also very good they can immobilize themselves in exchange of longer range (immobilize/mobilize countdown can be set to 5 or 10 seconds).
  *Japanese also used chemical/biological weapons so this one also can be put.

 These are some ideas about Japanese... I'd love to read comments/ideas about Japanese...

I found these links very useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_of_Japan [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Army [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_tanks_and_armoured_vehicles_of_the_WWII_period [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weapons_of_the_Japanese_Navy [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_General_Headquarters#Organization_during_World_War_II [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banzai_charge [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_weapon [nofollow]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 [nofollow]
http://www.provehicles.co.uk/top-10-heaviest-and-biggest-military-tanks-ever/ [nofollow]

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2010, 07:03:12 PM »
YES!!!

Japonia will bring allot of exotic/fresh air in Eastern Front.

Many times i get answer like=we don't want this because is not historical accurate
With another occasions answer is=>but this mod is not meant to be historical accurate.

What i can believe?
I believe is no direction marked clear for this mod,and answers are given in a second,depending what that person think/feel in that moment.

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010, 04:17:09 AM »
Again I don't see the logic of including what is a major Sea + Air WW2 powerhouse (Japan) to a land battle based game.

Italy would make more sense (not for location but for weapon variety)

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010, 04:24:33 AM »
Ostheer is certain, japan is not happening. That is what the Pacific Thunder mod is for

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 02:07:43 PM »
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Many times i get answer like=we don't want this because is not historical accurate
With another occasions answer is=>but this mod is not meant to be historical accurate.

It seems that some people don't understand the difference between pure fantasy and creative license. Japan in Europe is a no-no.

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010, 02:38:54 PM »
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Many times i get answer like=we don't want this because is not historical accurate
With another occasions answer is=>but this mod is not meant to be historical accurate.

It seems that some people don't understand the difference between pure fantasy and creative license. Japan in Europe is a no-no.
Thank YOU. NO JAPANESE ON EASTERN FRONT
Propably the next game of relic will be pong, but i'm not sure if they would be able to balance the sides.


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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010, 02:42:40 PM »
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Many times i get answer like=we don't want this because is not historical accurate
With another occasions answer is=>but this mod is not meant to be historical accurate.

It seems that some people don't understand the difference between pure fantasy and creative license. Japan in Europe is a no-no.
Thank YOU. NO JAPANESE ON EASTERN FRONT

+1.
No far eastern front on the eastern front..!
we want to kick real nazi asses not crazy kamikaze ppl.'s little hairy one's.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010, 02:44:16 PM by Venoxxis »

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 12:04:38 AM »
The same way the Opposing Fronts expansion brought a very specific part of the Wehrmacht (the Kampfgruppes), the Eastern Front expansion could bring something specific.

I vote for SS units. And to soothe the butthurt, I suggest having the player handle the "good" SS as they race to stop the "bad" SS from committing war crimes. Or that could be a subplot for the last missions, or something.

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 12:11:33 AM »
SS will be incorporated in the same way as Wehrmacht and Panzer Elite. They won't specifically be called 'SS', but certain units' uniforms and loadout will indicate this.

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2010, 12:39:26 AM »
Just out of curiosity how come they won't be called the SS?? I understand they where brutal but they where also very tough soldiers to beat. People have to stop beating around the bush regarding the SS they where in the war so have them in the game... For example, the 2nd SS panzer infantry had the most decorations on the eastern front (not sure about the whole german army though) and I don't understand why they aren't incorporated

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2010, 12:49:26 AM »
Relic didn't call Riflemen 'US Army Riflemen', and they didn't call Stormtroopers 'SS Stormtroopers'. There is no reason to call our elite troops the SS, just to prove that we can write 'SS' in our game.

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2010, 12:54:32 AM »
Well, Panzer Elite is already taken, so... Heavy Tank Battalion? Lots of KTs and Panthers?

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2010, 06:54:57 AM »
Relic didn't call Riflemen 'US Army Riflemen', and they didn't call Stormtroopers 'SS Stormtroopers'. There is no reason to call our elite troops the SS, just to prove that we can write 'SS' in our game.

Ah ok just curious

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2010, 04:49:49 AM »
good to hear that
that was the solution i hoped for
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2010, 08:53:02 PM »
if you want to make a japanese faction go help the people already trying to make one. If you are wondering were to search just go to www.moddb.com [nofollow] and type in at the search log company of heroes opposing fronts then click on the mods tab and you will see it. Once agian this a eastern front mod not a Japanese mod.