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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #75 on: July 04, 2010, 11:12:30 PM »
Yes ;) ::) ;D
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #76 on: July 06, 2010, 09:29:58 AM »
   First of all i want to say that there is 3 different nations on one side (British, USA, Soviet Union) but at the other side only 1 nation and its Germans (Wehrmacht & Panzer Elite). And now people talk about Ostheer and its again Germans. At this point I'm getting concerned about variety on battlefield... I think we must put a different nation in the mod and that would be really nice. This will make this mod (more) awesome.
 
   There are many nations can be think ed about but i think Empire of Japan would be a good choice because first of all i want you to remember that: When Japanese joined to war from that moment its called as a World War. Before than that is was a war on Europe and a bit on North Africa. Secondly, Japanese matches the title of mod. Well it is far east but it is east... And Japanese fought both with USA and Soviet Union at that era. Japanese had a fierce fanatic infantry (Banzai charges, suicide attacks etc.) which are also were experts of ambush tactics (remember battles on tropical pacific islands) and they had a suprising fierce air force (remember Pearl Harbor - Kamikaze Doctrine etc.) which rains bullets or bombs on their targets before they crash on it (this can be a 1 of 3 doctrines). Finally we must not forget Japanese navy power. In CoH there is no navy battles but navy forces can feature as an off-map artillery or manpower in exchange of fuel and (this one is very unique) reinforcing infantry squads on anywhere on owned territories. These can be abilities of Navy Support Doctrine .     
   Japanese had good tanks (mostly medium and light tanks) but they are not as strong as Panther or IS-2 or M26 so they lack of heavy armored vehicles. This weakness can be reduced by Heavy Armor Doctrine. With this doctrine Japanese can call (for once) powerful Super-Heavy Tank "O-I" which can match with a Tiger Tank.
   
   *As same as in WW2 Japanese have a very mobile force on battlefield (Like British in CoH but not with Trucks).
   *Their infantry is "kill many in short time but die quickly" type.Setting booby traps, ambushes, digging trenches for defensive operations...
   *They had a strong artillery like Rocket Mortars, Howitzers, Anti-Tank Guns etc.
  *Japanese snipers are also very good they can immobilize themselves in exchange of longer range (immobilize/mobilize countdown can be set to 5 or 10 seconds).
  *Japanese also used chemical/biological weapons so this one also can be put.

 These are some ideas about Japanese... I'd love to read comments/ideas about Japanese...

I found these links very useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_of_Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_tanks_and_armoured_vehicles_of_the_WWII_period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weapons_of_the_Japanese_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_General_Headquarters#Organization_during_World_War_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banzai_charge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_weapon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
http://www.provehicles.co.uk/top-10-heaviest-and-biggest-military-tanks-ever/

Hungary would Make More Sense

Or even Italy, Romania or Finland. Japan is too-far-east for the Eastern Front.

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #77 on: July 06, 2010, 10:38:16 AM »
   First of all i want to say that there is 3 different nations on one side (British, USA, Soviet Union) but at the other side only 1 nation and its Germans (Wehrmacht & Panzer Elite). And now people talk about Ostheer and its again Germans. At this point I'm getting concerned about variety on battlefield... I think we must put a different nation in the mod and that would be really nice. This will make this mod (more) awesome.
 
   There are many nations can be think ed about but i think Empire of Japan would be a good choice because first of all i want you to remember that: When Japanese joined to war from that moment its called as a World War. Before than that is was a war on Europe and a bit on North Africa. Secondly, Japanese matches the title of mod. Well it is far east but it is east... And Japanese fought both with USA and Soviet Union at that era. Japanese had a fierce fanatic infantry (Banzai charges, suicide attacks etc.) which are also were experts of ambush tactics (remember battles on tropical pacific islands) and they had a suprising fierce air force (remember Pearl Harbor - Kamikaze Doctrine etc.) which rains bullets or bombs on their targets before they crash on it (this can be a 1 of 3 doctrines). Finally we must not forget Japanese navy power. In CoH there is no navy battles but navy forces can feature as an off-map artillery or manpower in exchange of fuel and (this one is very unique) reinforcing infantry squads on anywhere on owned territories. These can be abilities of Navy Support Doctrine .     
   Japanese had good tanks (mostly medium and light tanks) but they are not as strong as Panther or IS-2 or M26 so they lack of heavy armored vehicles. This weakness can be reduced by Heavy Armor Doctrine. With this doctrine Japanese can call (for once) powerful Super-Heavy Tank "O-I" which can match with a Tiger Tank.
   
   *As same as in WW2 Japanese have a very mobile force on battlefield (Like British in CoH but not with Trucks).
   *Their infantry is "kill many in short time but die quickly" type.Setting booby traps, ambushes, digging trenches for defensive operations...
   *They had a strong artillery like Rocket Mortars, Howitzers, Anti-Tank Guns etc.
  *Japanese snipers are also very good they can immobilize themselves in exchange of longer range (immobilize/mobilize countdown can be set to 5 or 10 seconds).
  *Japanese also used chemical/biological weapons so this one also can be put.

 These are some ideas about Japanese... I'd love to read comments/ideas about Japanese...

I found these links very useful:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_of_Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Japanese_Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_tanks_and_armoured_vehicles_of_the_WWII_period
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weapons_of_the_Japanese_Navy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_General_Headquarters#Organization_during_World_War_II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banzai_charge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_weapon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
http://www.provehicles.co.uk/top-10-heaviest-and-biggest-military-tanks-ever/

Hungary would Make More Sense

Or even Italy, Romania or Finland. Japan is too-far-east for the Eastern Front.
Jesus Christ, not again  ::)...the Devs have already decided on this issue a long time ago...putting one specific nation into the Ostheer at the expense of all the others would only invite more conflicts. Like in vCOH, an ambiguously-named unit instead of a completely new faction would be better for everyone and would keep things less complicated. In fact, did the Canadians, New Zealanders, and Australians complain when the British/Commonwealth faction was introduced? Nein.  ::)

Still want Polish/Finnish/Spanish/Scandinavian/Swiss/French/Hungarian/Bulgarian/Italian/Ukrainian/Latvian/Rumanian/White Russian etc. formations in the Ostheer? Instead of making 10 or more "national factions" (omg  >:(), just make a single unit-type and call them Waffen-Grenadiers. You can then assume any number of nationalities to your hearts' desires. And yes, before you all say "WRONG!!", Waffen-Grenadiers actually existed...in the Waffen-SS and the Volunteer Legions. So those of you who are also SS-fanboys should stop crying and push for this idea instead. ;)

For those "special cases" who keep pushing for the inclusion of the Japanese into the Ostheer, please go help Moknin out with making his Chinese Mod (http://easternfront.org/forums/index.php?topic=3794.0) instead. Cheers
« Last Edit: July 06, 2010, 10:57:35 AM by Werwolf »

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #78 on: July 06, 2010, 02:55:00 PM »
And as werewolf said and I did for a thousand times:


End of topic!
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2010, 08:36:49 PM »
And who are you to decide this?
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2010, 08:43:41 PM »
And who are you to decide this?


He isnt deciding something. He is noticing that the debate is closed. No japs, no others axis country like Finland, Romania or Hungary. Only Ostheer, with, perhaps, a universal foreign unit (Waffen-grenadier is a good idea).

And lets be honest, play with germans is much more fun than playing with puppet states of the Reich.
Japs will be release with Pacific Thunder. Thats all! Nothing more!

I said End of Topic!

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2010, 10:35:20 PM »
And as werewolf said and I did for a thousand times:


End of topic!
+1001 , can someone lock this now please.
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #82 on: July 07, 2010, 11:18:00 PM »
When thread creator say "close" - i will close.
When u start a spam/flame war - i will close.
When u write to much off topic - i will close.
When u want to finish the topic - dont write here anymore ;)

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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2010, 11:47:17 PM »
And who are you to decide this?
I can't imagine Seeme as Moderator :P.
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2010, 02:36:23 AM »
Ok guys we gotta go untopic.

So, arent those roo waaaay to overpowered?

Dang pe, way to op op!!! Darn! Darn! Darn!

When will the obsteer be out?

Lets get some finnsh as a fraction. Come on!

Is that good enough?


And black, I'll be a fine modder.
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2010, 02:46:43 AM »
Seeme you just spammed off topic, thus making you  an invalid cantidate for moderator.
And I think the Thread creator was banned , or just quit
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2010, 03:31:09 AM »
Oh and what makes YOU a better canidate?
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2010, 04:32:09 AM »
Read my Personal Text :P
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2010, 06:17:47 AM »
Junk.
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Re: A new faction for Eastern Front
« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2010, 06:16:41 PM »
lol...

Okay.
I see; u have chosen option 4  ::)
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